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Mafia: TWR Games Bonanza - Endgame: Mafia win

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Oh now I remember, this was from a quote about the flavour text. I totally forgot about that myself...
Also, I hate that I'm even saying this... AGAIN... but what if Contrainer is jester and actively trying to get lynched. It's like... the only thing that makes his posts make sense to me when they almost seem to be conscious efforts to avoid saying much (...or anything) or going in riddles. And that the vig thing was to avoid not fulfilling his win-con. I was willing to buy that the bomb thing was just a play that went wrong from a legit bomb, but the fact that he's not really done much since then to make sure he's being pro-town isn't helping. I just wish there was a safe way to figure out what's going on with Contrainer, because - at this point - he's kind of a distraction that we can't verify.

instead of "the boy who cried wolf" I feel like I'm turning into "the girl who cried jester" SORRY
If he is jester then we care even about him. We're not going to help him if he doesn't help us first.
He was somewhat an earlier voter in Pikochu's wagon, which gives him a lil' bit more credit over some others that jumped late.
And he attempted to make a rushed readlist. It was mostly repeating some ideas already in-thread and is not ideal, but I feel like it gives him towny credits for at least trying. Aw idk, it's mostly gut feeling.
If you look back at MPs vote, do you think that's a town vote or scum hopping on?
I wasn't getting notifications most of the day ok
Piko still scum
But why, explain why think these kind of things.
 
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Oh now I remember, this was from a quote about the flavour text. I totally forgot about that myself...

If he is jester then we care even about him. We're not going to help him if he doesn't help us first.

If you look back at MPs vote, do you think that's a town vote or scum hopping on?

But why, explain why think these kind of things.
Half this post looks eerily familiar.

...If Piko is town then wouldn't it just be a case of mafia jumping on an easy mislynch?

Why do you still view Piko as mafia? What are your thoughts on the Megapod case?

What have I done to earn so much mistrust ;_;
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Literally the only thing it shares is asking contrainer for more, which is only 1/4th of my post
 
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Literally the only thing it shares is asking contrainer for more, which is only 1/4th of my post
I was just making a joke about us both asking Contrainer and Exlight basically the same thing.
 
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If Piko is town then wouldn't it just be a case of mafia jumping on an easy mislynch
If you look back at MPs vote, do you think that's a town vote or scum hopping on?
His vote was like the 3rd/7 in that wagon at some point iirc, so it could go both ways.
When he voted it still wasn't a point of no return for the wagon. It could indeed be scum trying to trigger a massive amount of votes in the wagon so they could blend, but for the reasons I already mentioned I feel like a null-slightly town read towards him.
 
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I feel like if Piko is Town then we messed up Mafia's plan because we lynched a claimed Vanilla instead of a potential Power Role, which is not ideal but it's better than a lot of scenarios. People seem to be teaming him with Pika as well, so a cop check on them would be great for us to sort out some stuff.
If Mafia's plan was to come after me, they must know I have a power role to where I am a threat to them. If that's the case, I think we may have to look at the people who started the wagon too.

iirc you readlist didn't even have Zinn as Town, so don't come here rolling eyes as if we had done some obvious mistake because you couldn't even formulate a sentence saying whether you believed or not his vanilla claim.
This or just saying that I'm scum. Contrainer hasn't really said much other than that questionable claim.

I just wish there was a safe way to figure out what's going on with Contrainer, because - at this point - he's kind of a distraction that we can't verify.
Now you see why I wasn't too amused with the Contrainer claim.

Not sure what you are trying to say here?
My concern was that there was lack of interaction between you and other players, which raised some flags for me. And I thought it could be used to help pinpoint potential scum people since mafia members don't typically like to be seen together in the game.
 
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If Mafia's plan was to come after me, they must know I have a power role to where I am a threat to them. If that's the case, I think we may have to look at the people who started the wagon too.
That would make sense. Should we ask you to claim during the next Day Phase then?
If scum has info and tried to push your wagon because of it then it will only give info to Town. If they don't you kinda just said you have a power role, so, oof.
 
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That would make sense. Should we ask you to claim during the next Day Phase then?
If scum has info and tried to push your wagon because of it then it will only give info to Town. If they don't you kinda just said you have a power role, so, oof.
It's one of the main reasons why I'm trying to figure out who I can fully trust and who can make good judgment.
 
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It's one of the main reasons why I'm trying to figure out who I can fully trust and who can make good judgment.
Well game is NOC so you can’t privately claim. So this post is confusing.

Question is who would mafia have rolecopped N1. I would have gone for someone like FA who was being viewed as townie right from the start to see if she would be a threat as a role and speaking or just on the speaking end.

But I’m not mafia this game so idk. I haven’t been able to predict mafia thought patterns for a few games now. All I understand is that at some point thy decide “kill Mido kill Mido”

Still I wonder what others thoughts are?

Seriously who does everyone think they may have rolecopped? If thy have one, though it’s a common role so they probably do.
 
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Seriously who does everyone think they may have rolecopped? If thy have one, though it’s a common role so they probably do.
If it was me, I'd have stayed away from the Towny looking players, due to Watcher paranoia. I personally would've gone for someone like jd or Pod who were more middling. Tells you whether they're someone you should deal with yourself or let the inactivity do your job for you.
 
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If it was me, I'd have stayed away from the Towny looking players, due to Watcher paranoia. I personally would've gone for someone like jd or Pod who were more middling. Tells you whether they're someone you should deal with yourself or let the inactivity do your job for you.
I mean, Watcher paranoia this early is kinda silly. What are the odds of the roleblocker being seen N1? 1:120?

If they REALLY wanted a safe rolecop they could've aimed for Contrainer, but I feel like the best option would be to check a Townie that hadn't claimed.
 
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I feel like rolecops either like to go for top townreads (more so early on than later) or people who have barely posted at all to get the most useful information, but unless a possible watcher or potentially a tracker happened to get lucky, it's not like we can verify that. But if scum had checked Piko and saw a power role they wanted removed, I feel like they'd be more likely to either NK him later (since it wasn't like he was looking like a townread to people to be protected going forward) or just see what happens, since Piko could just claim to try to save himself if it had come to it, and then there'd be a chance of scum getting hit instead if votes moved in a panic.

I dunno, I just don't think what happened on the Piko wagon is related to a rolecop (if he really is town), and Midorikawa-the-likely-town-miller started the wagon. I feel like mid-to-later votes on Pikochu that didn't add much would be more likely to be scum, since there was quite a bit of sheeping going on.
 
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Not sure why we are speculating about Rolecops.
To understand if Piko's wagon was caused by scum trying to lynch a power role.
since Piko could just claim to try to save himself if it had come to it
Him surviving was kind of a miracle tho. Even with 7 votes he didn't claim, which is kinda odd if he thinks he got rolecopped.
 
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Well the first two votes were me and FA so I’m not speculating for that Piko reason. I know I didn’t start his wagon based on his role.

For me the speculation is whether or not mafia sees him as a threat and knows his role, so should he come out next day phase or not. Though him hinting at it possibly screwed him over already.
 
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Pikochu has been killed. They were:

Dear Pikochu,

You are Larry Jones from Capture the Shiny Victini Mafia. Larry Jones was originally played by jdthebud, Capture the Shiny Victini Mafia was Megapod in June 2018.

Capture the Shiny Victini Mafia said:
Dear jdthebud, you are Larry Jones, one of MassiveShock11’s characters in Capture the Shiny Victini. Larry Jones is a scientist employed by the Black Mareep Corporation, a company specialised in developing futuristic technology. After getting fired for inadvertently causing a Cofagrigus to rampage in his laboratory, Larry was re-hired by the Black Mareep Corporation CEO, Frank, and tasked with obtaining the shiny Victini for research purposes. Larry was at one point revealed to be the inventor of the Dialgloves, the time-travel devices first seen used by the Ditto-nator to bring all of the game's players into the future. Larry has also been seen using other fancy gadgets to do his work, such as a flashbang grenade with mind-clearing properties and a Hyper Beam Cannon. He gets around with his signature Pokémon, a Goodra that has curiously developed wings and the capability to fly due to a genetic mutation.

Since you have an arsenal of specialised gadgets at your disposal, you are the Town Inventor. You start the game with 1×Dialgloves, 1×Flashbang,and 1×Hyper Beam Cannon. Once a Night, you may give one of your inventions to another player. Once recieved, the invention may be subsequently used once by the recipient instead of their normal action. The inventions' powers, once given to a player, are as follows:

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You have received Dialgloves! This time-travel device provides you with 1×Phase Resetter. Once during any phase of the game, you may reset. This will undo all of the events (Night actions, lynches etc.) of the previous Day phase and Night phase, and the game will resume from one full Day/Night cycle before the item's use.

You have received a Flashbang! This is a special version of the weapon with mind-clearing properties, so it provides you with a combined 1×Roleblocker/Psychiatrist. One Night phase during the game, you may select a player to stun instead of using your normal Night action. Your target will be prevented from using their own action that Night. Additionally, if your target is a Serial Killer, they will be reverted into a Town player.

You have received a Hyper Beam Cannon! This powerful weapon provides you with 1×Vigilante. One Night phase during the game, you may select a player to kill instead of using your normal Night action.
———

You are sided with the Town, and win once the Mafia and all other opposing factions are eliminated.
You are the Inventor. At night, you may create and pass one of the items listed in this role PM to a player. Each item can only be created once.

You are aligned with town and win when all threats to your faction have been eliminated or nothing can stop this from happening

Larry Jones from Capture the Shiny Victini Mafia, originally hosted by megapod. The Town Inventor.

It is now Day 3. Phase ends at 0:00 on the 23rd September AWST.
 
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