United States Politics

[Dorothy]

Also, she thought the demon sheep ad was a good electoral strategy.

Having political credentials after THAT...kind of not possible.

Well, yes, but that goes without saying (you and your demon sheep, I swear)

 

[The Infidel]

oh my god just googled this demon sheep advert mentioned so much, and I've seen all I need to know what sort of candidate she is.
Not only was the ad incredibly dull for the first 2 mins, but then it just descended into farce with that awful budget demon sheep lol.

Why is she running for Pres, must have money to burn, or a new book coming out!
Will the guy with his 999 plan throw his hat in again???

 

[Fig]

Sim City plan. It's called the Sim City plan.

But after Sim City 2013, the plan's credibility must be non-existent.

(you and your demon sheep, I swear)

It was the most creepily awesome avatar in the history of Bulba. It deserves recognition.

 

[Dorothy]

Will the guy with his 999 plan throw his hat in again???

Herman Cain? Unlikely, or at least unlikely as a Republican. He's trying to get a "legitimate" third party established.

 

[The Infidel]

Will the guy with his 999 plan throw his hat in again???

Herman Cain? Unlikely, or at least unlikely as a Republican. He's trying to get a "legitimate" third party established.

Any politician who can wedge Pokemon quotes into a major speech cant be all that bad can he?

I wanna see Hillary get on stage and say, "when it comes to being president i dont wanna just be the first female, i wanna be the very best, like no one ever was"

 

[Nero the Giant Whiscash]

Lets put it this way the elite of the Countries (the real owners of this joint) have already decided that the nomination for democrats will be Clinton and for republicans its a toss up between which 5 poilticians can they control Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Walker(if he runsd) , Christie ( if he runs) or Bush the 3rd

 

[Cap'n Jack]

Well, this 2016 election will be the first that I'll be allowed to participate in, since I'm finally old enough to vote... but now that means I'm also old enough to start paying attention to the candidates, and frankly you guys, politics is not my forte. Lately I've been avoiding concrete labels because ultimately I think, ironically, they complicate things more than they clarify, but I will say that as a result of establishing among my friends that the most important thing in the whole world to me is freedom (freedom of speech, freedom of press, freedom of enterprise, freedom of choice, you name it, I'm in favor) above all else, I've been told that I sound like a "libertarian", which I hope to goodness has nothing to do with "liberal" because anybody who uses the word "progressive" makes me want to vomit. I hope that gives y'all a good idea of where I stand on the whole right-left thing, and all I'm really saying is that I have no idea what to think of any of the candidates. Republicans are the butt of so many jokes among my friends that it makes me wonder, but at the same time I have a rebellious streak so I'm already wondering what makes the Democrats so great anyhow.

I think what it boils down to is that I'll vote for anyone who isn't a wuss and doesn't listen to lobbyists, which I doubt is anyone on this list. Help?

 

[Osprey]

... I've been told that I sound like a "libertarian", which I hope to goodness has nothing to do with "liberal" because anybody who uses the word "progressive" makes me want to vomit. I hope that gives y'all a good idea of where I stand on the whole right-left thing, and all I'm really saying is that I have no idea what to think of any of the candidates.

Believe me, "libertarian" is pretty much the exact opposite of "liberal" in the left vs. right-wing sense. Libertarian generally means someone who wants the government to keep its hands to itself; "small government" as they call it. Liberal-leaners want the opposite, advocating more centralized power and "big government."

Oh, and I just looked up the demon sheep thing. That was... interesting. I wonder if there could be something to top that.

 

[Shinobu]

@Jack Pschitt

I'd recommend registering as independent, mainly because you'll get less political mail. Florida has closed primaries so if you're interested in voting in those you'll have to register with one. In terms of who to vote for I'd wait until campaigns and debates are under way. Votesmart.org can also give you more info on candidates.

 

[GhostFingers]

Oh, and I just looked up the demon sheep thing. That was... interesting. I wonder if there could be something to top that.

 

[Nero the Giant Whiscash]

Oh, and I just looked up the demon sheep thing. That was... interesting. I wonder if there could be something to top that.

... I've been told that I sound like a "libertarian", which I hope to goodness has nothing to do with "liberal" because anybody who uses the word "progressive" makes me want to vomit. I hope that gives y'all a good idea of where I stand on the whole right-left thing, and all I'm really saying is that I have no idea what to think of any of the candidates.

Believe me, "libertarian" is pretty much the exact opposite of "liberal" in the left vs. right-wing sense. Libertarian generally means someone who wants the government to keep its hands to itself; "small government" as they call it. Liberal-leaners want the opposite, advocating more centralized power and "big government."

Oh, and I just looked up the demon sheep thing. That was... interesting. I wonder if there could be something to top that.

there are many diffrent kinds of libertarians everything from Minimalist libertarians to Libertarian socialism Libertarianism in the United States is a movement promoting individual liberty and minimized government usaully and myself i'm a Jeffersonian and as result i often vote libertarian

 

[Cap'n Jack]

Thanks for the help, everyone. I've often wondered if most people are as confused as I am when it comes to these things.

 

[Shinobu]

Can we start a betting pool over which Republican candidates will drop out first? We're going to see some pretty high attrition before primaries even begin.

 

[Dorothy]

Can we start a betting pool over which Republican candidates will drop out first? We're going to see some pretty high attrition before primaries even begin.

It's not much of a competition. Either Jindal, Fiorina, or Trump.

 

[Jolene]

Anyone else on the Trump bandwagon? :^)

 

[Dorothy]

Anyone else on the Trump bandwagon? :^)

I wouldn't call it a bandwagon so much as a flaming deathtrap oxcart careening into oblivion, as is apparently standard procedure for Trump when election season blows near. Granted, this time he seems as if his big mouth is getting him personally in a lot more trouble than his 2011 platform of "Obama wasn't born in America" did. Trump's a show candidate. I doubt he'll make it very long into the primaries, if that. If I were a conservative, I'd definitely throw my weight behind Bush or Paul since they're the best shot the GOP has of nabbing moderate and left-of-center votes in the general. Trump's comments regarding immigrants have poisoned the well of his campaign before it really had a chance to start, and with all the negative publicity it's gotten him, if he does make it to the primaries he's going to get steamrolled.

 

[jayrachi]

Only candidate I feel worth voting for is Bernie Sanders, as per his praise of Nordic government (which has generally done a lot better than American government, imo). Unfortunately chances are Hillary Clinton is going to be nominated, and none of the Republican Party interest me either. Looks like another election where there's no choice to be made - both candidates will be about the same on the political compass and things will continue to degenerate.

Politics in our country are a joke.

 

[the_may_fan]

Only candidate I feel worth voting for is Bernie Sanders, as per his praise of Nordic government (which has generally done a lot better than American government, imo). Unfortunately chances are Hillary Clinton is going to be nominated, and none of the Republican Party interest me either. Looks like another election where there's no choice to be made - both candidates will be about the same on the political compass and things will continue to degenerate.

Politics in our country are a joke.

I share your pessimism with regards to politics although I contend we do face a very real choice in many regards. With debts mounting, labor force participation falling, and wages stagnating, we need someone who's going to right the course. I'd select most of the members in the Republican field over Bernie Sanders, but that being said I have extraordinary respect for his consistency on the issues and believe that he's the most suitable representative for honest progressives in this country. Hillary Clinton is reprehensible in so many ways. I'm not surprised so many Republican legislators are vying for the opportunity to run against her.

Indeed, a smart campaign and reasonable candidate would crush her, like Rand Paul. His sensible message of reduced interventionism abroad coupled with the restoration of privacy rights is an extraordinarily appealing platform that could conceivably draw votes from sensible and disaffected voters on the left. Certainly liberals aren't going to agree with him on other issues, but he still draws a clear contrast between the corrupt establishment and a new way of governing the nation. Some Republicans may dislike him for not towing the line on all social issues, but polls have consistently shown that he is competitive with Clinton in swing states and has broad appeal among young voters. Any Republican seeking the White House should know that winning requires disassembling Obama's voting coalition - the youth being a significant part.

As an aside, if the Republican wins, then I hope he or she does not squander that great power. A Republican presidency essentially ensures that Republican majorities in the House and Senate remain and would grant the new president significantly opportunities to change things in our country... for better or for worse. Bush was a disappointment in so many regards; I can only hope his successors are better.

 

[The Infidel]

Only candidate I feel worth voting for is Bernie Sanders, as per his praise of Nordic government (which has generally done a lot better than American government, imo). Unfortunately chances are Hillary Clinton is going to be nominated, and none of the Republican Party interest me either. Looks like another election where there's no choice to be made - both candidates will be about the same on the political compass and things will continue to degenerate.

Politics in our country are a joke.

Nordic government is starting for fall apart. Norway only survives on oil and just elected a centre right government. Denmark too has elected a centre right/far right coaliton, Finland too is becoming quite a financial conservative. The only one staying true to the Nordic model is the founder Sweden, and the UN says by 2030 they wont be able to afford it and could face a crisis.

 

[Hector]

My prediction way early before anything happens: your nominees from the big two will be Rand Paul and Hilary Clinton.

I just feel like Rubio is going to blow it somehow... I know it sounds weird, but I just have this gut instinct that he's going to somehow screw up big time. Rand Paul may be new to the national scene, but he's taken over his father's passionate fanbase (and more importantly donor base).

If I were voting today, my vote would go to Rand Paul (unless Jon Huntsman were to run again), but of course there is a long way to go.

Changing my mind. I'll all in on the Supreme Overlord Trump bandwagon.

I see him walking into Congress and just shouting YOU'RE FIRED at people. Making incredibly racist comments during delicate negotiations in the Middle East peace process. IT WILL BE GLORIOUS!