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USUM Datamine Discussion

RIP Defog Move Tutor :c

EDIT: I SPOKE TOO SOON!!! He uploaded the ORAS move tutors before and now he noticed some errors, DEFOG for us ALL!!
 
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Is anybody able to check the Move Tutors that Decidueye and Dhelmise could learn, along with Lycanroc (all variants)? I can't seem to load Pastebin to check.

Thank you for reading.

EDIT: List of defoggers:

View: https://pastebin.com/6NNg5Dpw

Interesting choices, but some are odd. Serperior gets this move? Xerneas? Klefki?
 
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winstein said:
Is anybody able to check the Move Tutors that Decidueye and Dhelmise could learn, along with Lycanroc (all variants)? I can't seem to load Pastebin to check.

Thank you for reading.
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I'm not too sure we can answer correctly at this point because there seems to be a mismatch in the numbers. Right now it lists Incineroar as learning Liquidation but not Throat Chop (a move he already learns) so I'm not too sure. I think we can deduce its the next number but not too sure. Ill get back on this!
 
So many new Defog users. Sigilyph looks interesting because it has both Magic Guard and Roost. Whimsicott and Klefki with Prankster, Tornadus-T with Regenerator, Mega Altaria, Serperior, Rotom-Wash, Poison Heal Gliscor, Hydreigon, Florges and maybe Drampa seem pretty notable users too.

Oh yeah... and Landorus-T lol.
 
winstein said:
Is anybody able to check the Move Tutors that Decidueye and Dhelmise could learn, along with Lycanroc (all variants)? I can't seem to load Pastebin to check.

Thank you for reading.

EDIT: List of defoggers:

View: https://pastebin.com/6NNg5Dpw

Interesting choices, but some are odd. Serperior gets this move? Xerneas? Klefki?
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Again, I think this is correct because some pokémon learn the move tutor 0 and in the list there is no 0 it starts with 1. 1 being Bug Bite, for example Dewpider learns the move tutor 0 so we can assume 0 is 1 and so on.

Decidueye:
Covet, Seed Bomb, Snore, Synthesis, Tailwind, Sky Attack, Giga Drain, Worry Seed, Spite, Defog, Laser Focus.

Dhelmise:
Iron Head, Magic Coat, Iron Defense, Snore, Knock Off, Synthesis, Role Play, Pain Split, Giga Drain, Spite, Helping Hand, Telekinisis, Ally Switch.

EDIT:
Lycanroc Midday:
Covet, Iron Head, DRILL RUN, Earth Power, Iron Defense, Last Resort, Zen Headbutt, Hyper Voice, Iron Tail, Snore, Endeavor, Stealth Rock, Stomping Tantrum.

Midnight:
Covet, Dual Chop, Iron Head, Uproar, ThunderPunch, Fire Punch, Earth Power, Foul Play, Iron Defense, Last Resort, Zen Headbutt, Hyper Voice, Iron Tail, Snore, Focus Punch, Endeavor, Outrage, Stealth Rock, Stomping Tantrum, Throat Chop, Laser Focus.

Dusk:
Covet, Iron Head, DRILL RUN, Earth Power, Iron Defense, Last Resort, Zen Headbutt, Hyper Voice, Iron Tail, Snore, Endeavor, Outrage, Stealth Rock, Stomping Tantrum.
 
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dCraw said:
I'm not too sure we can answer correctly at this point because there seems to be a mismatch in the numbers. Right now it lists Incineroar as learning Liquidation but not Throat Chop (a move he already learns) so I'm not too sure. I think we can deduce its the next number but not too sure. Ill get back on this!
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It seems that the numbers start from zero, so Bug Bite is 0, while Defog is 62.

Thank you for reading.
 
Silvally: Signal Beam, Iron Head, Magic Coat, Iron Defense, Last Resort, Icy Wind, Zen Headbutt, Hyper Voice, Snore, Heat Wave, Tailwind, Outrage, Defog, Laser Focus.

I'll work on doing some more now.
 
So no Lycanroc Dawn if I understand correctly? Color me surprised on that one. And no new Alolan forms, that is very surprising and a little bit disappointing too.

Adhesive's evolution looks like Mega Beedrill's Mega Evolution (or more specifically, its Shiny does). Still, a Poison/Dragon type is pretty awesome, hope it doesn't become hard to obtain, or very late into the game.

Ultra Necrozma looks.... unfinished. Its game sprite from the Dex pastebin honestly looks like a Beta-sprite. Just very undetailed and boring looking for something that should be extremely cool. Hope it looks better in-game.

The cat-like Mythical looks really cool, shame it's pure Electric. It honestly looks Electric/Fighting more than anything. Which is a never before seen type combo, so they really should've gone with that.
 
Ribombee: Bug Bite, Covet, Signal Beam, Last Resort, Snore, Tailwind, After You, Helping Hand, Trick, Magic Room, Wonder Room, Skill Swap, Telekinesis, Ally Switch, Defog

Shiinotic: Signal Beam, Seed Bomb, Magic Coat, Snore, Synthesis, Giga Drain, Worry Seed, After You, Magic Room, Wonder Room, Recycle

Crabominable: Dual Chop, Iron Head, Thunder Punch, Ice Punch, Block, Iron Defense, Superpower, Icy Wind, Zen Headbutt, Snore, Drain Punch, Focus Punch, Endeavor

Vikavolt: Bug Bite, Signal Beam, Magnet Rise, Iron Defense, Electroweb, Snore, Shock Wave, Laser Focus,

Golisopod: Bug Bite, Dual Chop, Iron Head, Drill Run, Iron Defense, Icy Wind, Snore, Knock Off, Pain Split, Water Pulse, Spite, Endeavor, Liquidation, Throat Chop, Laser Focus
 
Poipole (Poison type)
HP- 67
ATK- 73
DEF- 67
SP.ATK- 73
SP.DEF- 67
SPEED- 73
Total: 420
Ht: 0.6m Wt: 1.8kg

Naganadel (Poison/Dragon type)
HP- 73
ATK- 73
DEF- 73
SP.ATK- 127
SP.DEF- 73
SPEED- 121
Total: 540
Ht: 3.6m Wt: 160kg

Stakataka (Rock/Steel type)
HP- 61
ATK- 131
DEF- 211
SP.ATK- 53
SP.DEF- 101
SPEED- 13
Total: 570
Ht: 5.5m Wt: 820kg

Blacephalon (Fire/Ghost type)
HP- 53
ATK- 127
DEF- 53
SP.ATK- 151
SP.DEF- 79
SPEED- 107
Total: 570
Ht: 1.8m Wt: 13kg

Zeraora (Electric type) ability: Volt Absorb
HP- 88
ATK- 112
DEF- 75
SP.ATK- 102
SP.DEF- 80
SPEED- 143
Total: 600
Ht: 1.5m Wt: 44.5kg


Dusk Mane Necrozma (Psychic/Steel) ability: Prism Armor
HP- 97
ATK- 157
DEF- 127
SP.ATK- 113
SP.DEF- 109
SPEED- 77
Total: 680
Ht: 3.8m Wt: 460kg

Dawn Wings Necrozma (Psychic/Ghost) ability: Prism Armor
HP- 97
ATK- 113
DEF- 109
SP.ATK- 157
SP.DEF- 127
SPEED- 77
Total: 680
Ht: 4.2m Wt: 350kg

ULTRA Necrozma (Psychic/Dragon type) ability: Neuroforce
HP- 97
ATK- 167
DEF- 97
SP.ATK- 167
SP.DEF- 97
SPEED- 129
Tota: 754
Ht: 7.5m Wt: 230kg
Holds UltraNecrozium Z. Z move name is LIGHT THAT BURNS THE SKY

Neat BST distribution imo. Necrozma third form changes everything!
 
Palossand: Block, Earth Power, Gravity, Iron Defense, Snore, Role Play, Pain Split, Giga Drain, Spite, After You, Trick, Recycle, Stealth Rock, Skill Swap

Pyukumuku: Block, Pain Split, Gastro Acid, Spite, Helping Hand, Recycle,

Minior: Iron Head, Gravity, Magnet Rise, Last Resort, Zen Headbutt, Snore, Endeavor, Stealth Rock, Telekinesis

Komala: Iron Head, Last Resort, Superpower, Zen Headbutt, Snore, Knock Off, Endeavor, Stomping Tantrum

Toxapex: Covet, Gunk Shot, Magic Coat, Block, Iron Defense, Icy Wind, Snore, Knock Off, Pain Split, Water Pulse, Gastro Acid, Spite, After You, Snatch, Liquidation





Yeah, Toxapex gets Knock Off just to be even more annoying :sneaky:
 
Ablaze said:
Poipole (Poison type)
HP- 67
ATK- 73
DEF- 67
SP.ATK- 73
SP.DEF- 67
SPEED- 73
Total: 420
Ht: 0.6m Wt: 1.8kg

Naganadel (Poison/Dragon type)
HP- 73
ATK- 73
DEF- 73
SP.ATK- 127
SP.DEF- 73
SPEED- 121
Total: 540
Ht: 3.6m Wt: 160kg

Stakataka (Rock/Steel type)
HP- 61
ATK- 131
DEF- 211
SP.ATK- 53
SP.DEF- 101
SPEED- 13
Total: 570
Ht: 5.5m Wt: 820kg

Blacephalon (Fire/Ghost type)
HP- 53
ATK- 127
DEF- 53
SP.ATK- 151
SP.DEF- 79
SPEED- 107
Total: 570
Ht: 1.8m Wt: 13kg

Zeraora (Electric type) ability: Volt Absorb
HP- 88
ATK- 112
DEF- 75
SP.ATK- 102
SP.DEF- 80
SPEED- 143
Total: 600
Ht: 1.5m Wt: 44.5kg


Dusk Mane Necrozma (Psychic/Steel) ability: Prism Armor
HP- 97
ATK- 157
DEF- 127
SP.ATK- 113
SP.DEF- 109
SPEED- 77
Total: 680
Ht: 3.8m Wt: 460kg

Dawn Wings Necrozma (Psychic/Ghost) ability: Prism Armor
HP- 97
ATK- 113
DEF- 109
SP.ATK- 157
SP.DEF- 127
SPEED- 77
Total: 680
Ht: 4.2m Wt: 350kg

ULTRA Necrozma (Psychic/Dragon type) ability: Neuroforce
HP- 97
ATK- 167
DEF- 97
SP.ATK- 167
SP.DEF- 97
SPEED- 129
Tota: 754
Ht: 7.5m Wt: 230kg
Holds UltraNecrozium Z. Z move name is LIGHT THAT BURNS THE SKY

Neat BST distribution imo. Necrozma third form changes everything!
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What does Neuroforce do?
 
Apparently only Giovanni uses Mega Evolved Mewtwo X.
All other bosses just use their box legendaries as their most powerful pokemon.
Looks like Cyrus and Ghetsis will use Dialga/Palkia and Reshi/Zek respectively depending on which game you are playing.

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What does Neuroforce do?
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No idea yet :(
 
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