What Would Be on an Anime-Specific Pokemon Iceberg?

[Powerstars]

You guys have seen those Iceberg memes, right? The ones that go like this:

Basically, starting with fairly well known bits of trivia about a work before getting darker and more obscure over time, even delving into odd fan theories. I'm interested in a lot of anime-specific trivia and a lot of the Pokemon icebergs seem to prioritize the games. This got me thinking about what an iceberg specific to the anime would look like. I came up with quite a bit of stuff for the higher levels, but when it came to the truly dark and obscure, I was at a bit of a loss. I figured I'd post what I came up with so far here and it could make for a fun discussion.

1st level (super well known by fans):
-Electric Soldier Porygon
-Kiss with Serena
-The Legend of Dratini
-Beauty and the Beach
-Voice actor change
-Riceballs

2nd level (slightly less known):
-Sammy is Professor Oak
-The Birth of Mewtwo
-The Misty Lure
-The Kanzenban
-Pokemon Live
-Jynx censorship
-The mother/daughter in the movies
-"Aim for the horn"

3rd level (obscure but still real):
-Pokemon De English
-Pokemon 3D and 4D
-Pokemon Heroes blue tint
-Team Rocket vs. Team Plasma
-Barboach vs. Whiscash
-The Ash coma theory
-Lenora censorship

4th level (incredibly oddly specific and niche):
-"Porygon did nothing wrong"
-Hiroki
-Misty's/Jessie's mallet
-The T. Rex version of the third movie
-The original First Movie teaser/adult Misty
-Pikachu & Pichu is banned in Japan

5th level (obscure fan theories):
-Giovanni is Ash's father
-Alternate continuity Ash is a girl

 

[LuxrayOfTheWild]

Would you put something like Pikachu and Swellow's thunder armor on this?

 

[Flynn]

1st Level
"Leo Burnett and 4Kids are the Devil"
The Ice Cave
Satoshi and Nagetukesaru! Touchdown of Friendship!!

2nd Level
Lt. Surge cursing in EP14

3rd Level
Pre-Pokemon Shock versions of EP1 - EP37
The ANA shorts
Pokemon Radio Show! Team Rocket's Secret Empire
James's VA changing mid-episode
Cursing Pokemon

4th Level
Celebi Movie Tokubetsuhen
This frame that was hidden in EP18

5th Level
Takeshi's Paradise was removed after 6 episodes because parents complained

 

[Powerstars]

Would you put something like Pikachu and Swellow's thunder armor on this?

I think it would make sense for a higher level, yeah!

Takeshi's Paradise was removed after 6 episodes because parents complained

This is genuinely really funny.

 

[ii kanji]

I don’t know if you’d count this as technically anime specific, but it’s definitely an iceberg...

Remember Toshihiro Ono, the guy who wrote the anime-based manga The Electric Tale of Pikachu? The one where Musashi and Kojiro are married and having a baby in the epilogue? I wonder how many people know that this guy wrote a supplementary hentai doujinshi showing how that baby was conceived, which abhorrently enough also included

Spoiler: paedophilia

Kasumi.

 

[KrspaceT]

Maybe the Takeshi Shudo light novels? I could see them somewhere in the iceberg but I have no idea on what level. This isn't one of my preferred memes.

 

[Daren]

Some of Takeshi Shudo's intended endings or ideas like Pikachu turning against Ash to lead an anti human revolt would fit somewhere.

I don’t know if you’d count this as technically anime specific, but it’s definitely an iceberg...

Remember Toshihiro Ono, the guy who wrote the anime-based manga The Electric Tale of Pikachu? The one where Musashi and Kojiro are married and having a baby in the epilogue? I wonder how many people know that this guy wrote a supplementary hentai doujinshi showing how that baby was conceived, which abhorrently enough also included

Spoiler: paedophilia

Kasumi.

I'd read before that he did a lot of hentai before Electric Tale, and even that he'd done one with the rockets.

The spoilered part I was not familiar with and am now rather horrified. Definitely near the bottom of the iceberg.

 

[GrookeyFan77]

1st Level
Ash Greninja
2nd Level
Ash's Infernape Charizard Krookodile Pikachu and Sceptile
3rd Level
Ash's Bulbasaur and Squirtle
4th Level
Ash's Donphan
5th Level
Ash's Unpleasant and Paplitoad

 

[Fan of Jarrus]

Takeshi's Paradise was removed after 6 episodes because parents complained

It was?

 

[Flynn]

It was?

It was taken off the air after six episodes, but because it was meant to be a limited-time ED. That's according to Yuji Ueda in a 2017 interview. Seems like prior to that interview it was theorized amongst some people in the Japanese fandom that it was removed due to complaints, though.

 

[Powerstars]

I tried to keep it somewhat even, but the Rocket hentai bit was an essential inclusion. I never knew about it, good God xD I took a lot of the suggestions into account and added quite a few of my own.


Still might update it if there's other stuff but I quite like this.