What would your reaction be if Ash lost the Sinnoh league?

[swampertuska]

it's exciting to see his battles because you don't know if he will win or lose. Like the battle with Paul. That was epic squared, yo.

You must be kidding!
The fact that Ash will lose, not only that.. he will be demolished... that was very clear before their battle.
Well, even if Ash wouldn't win it will be ok. So far he won the Battle Frontier. And this is more important for him than winning any regional league. Because Brains are more powerful than the trainers who compete in the league. The fact he won it make me respect him as a trainer. As an example remember Reggie. He was very skillful trainer and participated in many leagues but he couldn't beat any Brandon's pokemon. Ash in every single battle against Brandon showed himself as a great trainer especially because Brandon's pokemon were far more powerful than Ash's but he still could match up against them. He is very young and I think he will finally win the league and beat E4 and Champion as well. No doubt for me. As for the rest.. I don't care.

P.S. The only thing I really want is finally to see Ash's journey by himself along with Pikachu without Brock and regular girl. Contest thing is interesting and so on. But something changed for me after Johto. Yep they showed us contests, it was new, it was good. But now.. I don't even interested in them. In Kanto and Johto we saw development Ash as a trainer, as a person. Now.. we don't see it at all. Unfortunately. This crap with Paul ofcourse is interesting. But let's throw out it and we won't see anything. Just some filler episodes after contests and battles like Potchama/Pikachu.. We don't see any relationship between Ash and his pokemon for now. For example writers evolved Chimi and for many episodes they completely forgot about him. No development. Gliscor after evolving is the same and so on.
Now we only see this damn penguin in every single episode which pokes his nose everywhere. And that's it.

 

[lonepichu]

You must be kidding!
The fact that Ash will lose, not only that.. he will be demolished... that was very clear before their battle.

Didn't keep me from hoping he'd win especially when Chimmy evolved. I rooted for that little monkey so hard. Maybe that was a bad example, but that battle was just so awesome to watch <3

 

[Mijzelffan]

he is gonna lose the leaugue, like always. Get over it =P

 

[Piplup]

he is gonna lose the leaugue, like always. Get over it =P

You don't know that and can't say this as a fact
Everything can happen and we have absolutely no way at all to know until it happens

 

[lonepichu]

Pochama is there for marketing oppertunities. He's popular and he sells. He's become a mascot alongside Pikachu which is why the penguin is everywhere.

I do think Ash has been developed. He's matured. I mean when Jun was telling him how great Shinji is and how Ash sucks, he didn't blow up like he would in the past, but he stayed silent and let his battle skills speak for themselves. It takes a great deal of maturity to stay calm like that and not blow up. He's become more focused and while he's still his nutty self, I can see he's becoming more mature as a trainer.

Either way, it's a safe assumption that Ash won't win. He needs a goal to strive for so there can be more episodes

 

[Takoto]

ASH SHOULD LOSE.

Also, why is there no "happy" option on the poll? I wouldn't feel indifferent or disappointed GOD DAMN YOU.

 

[Rosakai]

I would not be surprised at all to see him lose in the league. I expect him to place higher than he did the last two leagues, but I don't expect him to win.

 

[Random Chaos]

If he dos better than Paul I don't care

 

[AshTheManKetchum]

lulz what?

 

[Deadman]

So you're basically saying that he should make Top 8? You're kidding, right? You DO realize what you're saying, right? Ash has been in the Top 8 ever since Johto. He needs to go up to Top 4, more or less (I still feel that not having him go up a rank in the Ever Grande Conference was one of the biggest mistake the writers made.)

NO, I say I wouldn't explode if he does but I also say he won't win. All I say is that I see him either at place three or four. The leagues are just tournaments with pre-qualification, qualification and final round. I'm sure if I say soccer world cup you can see what I see and in the semi-final Satoshi will loose against Shinji, Naoshi or another random trainer from Gen V region an then compete in the match for place three, you see?

 

[Arysd]

Well. I don't expect him to win. I would be willing to paint 'I was wrong.' on my bedroom wall if he does win.
Not saying he isn't a good trainer. I just don't think he's good enough yet. Despite how long his journey has been going on for. Despite his former defeats and all his training. I could see him losing in the final round, possibly. But I just can't see him actually winning it.

 

[Neltharion S. Deathwing]

For some reason, I'd be delighted (not being evil!) and I don't really like Ash anyways. Paul owns him :-D:-D:-D

 

[Flame_]

it would be hilarious the league coming down to Paul's Torterra vs Ash's Charizard/Pikachu and have Paul wipe the floor with him but who knows....

 

[Weedle Mchairybug]

NO, I say I wouldn't explode if he does but I also say he won't win. All I say is that I see him either at place three or four. The leagues are just tournaments with pre-qualification, qualification and final round. I'm sure if I say soccer world cup you can see what I see and in the semi-final Satoshi will loose against Shinji, Naoshi or another random trainer from Gen V region an then compete in the match for place three, you see?

I know he probably won't win, but I feel that he should at least increase in rank. I mean, I never liked Ash's loss in Hoenn (I mean, yeah, he would lose anyways, but couldn't the writers at LEAST try to increase his rank before having him lose? Is it TOO MUCH to ask for a rank increase? I mean, if he doesn't increase his rank now, then he's hopeless.). I don't care if he beats paul or not, or if he even wins the league and fights the Sinnoh Elite 4 or not. The only thing that matters is that he at least increases in rank.

And BTW, just so you would know:

1st Place = Champion [not to be confused with the one ranking higher than an Elite 4 member]

2nd Place = Top 4

3rd Place = Top 8

4th Place = Top 16

5th Place = Top 32

6th Place = Top 48

7th Place = Top 64

8th Place = Top 82

So, basically, by saying 3rd or 4th place, you implied that Ash should make either top 16 or top 8. If he does top 16, then he would be back at his Kanto Region self in terms of placement. If he does the Top 8, he would be stuck and have never improved. The only surefire way to show that one has improved is if they increase in rank.

 

[Grave-E]

What's important to remember is that, while he came in the top 4 twice, the second time around he wasn't relying on any other pokemon besides his most recent captures. One of which being Glalie, and the other being Torkoal, who was essentially a blank slot anyway. I'm guessing the point they were trying to get across is that he showed improvement via his ability to handle less experienced companions and come that far with them. Adding to that, come on. As if the other competitors weren't using pokemon they'd had for years already.

As for the thread question, I honestly couldn't give a damn anymore. I'm more concerned about wacky hi-jinks.

 

[Piplup]

What's important to remember is that, while he came in the top 4 twice, the second time around he wasn't relying on any other pokemon besides his most recent captures. One of which being Glalie, and the other being Torkoal, who was essentially a blank slot anyway. I'm guessing the point they were trying to get across is that he showed improvement via his ability to handle less experienced companions and come that far with them. Adding to that, come on. As if the other competitors weren't using pokemon they'd had for years already.

That's what I always try to explain - it's stupid to complain Ash got the same result in Hoenn
They clearly did it to prove Ash can do as good with a new team as he did with his experienced Poké
I see top 8 with new team as an advancement from top 8 with relying on old experienced Poké

 

[Cybersai]

There were actually people who thought Ash was going to win the Hoenn league before it aired, which is why there was disappointment.

People thought that since May lost the Grand Festival, Ash would win the Hoenn league so both main characters didn't lose their tournaments in the same saga.

Boy were we wrong.

To be honest the moment Tyson was introduced everyone knew he was going to lose. Hopefully this time there is no new rival like that.

 

[Piplup]

Even if there's no League-only character, remember Barry and Nando will be there too - not only Paul
There's a very little chance of Allan or Leona being in the League too
So Ash can still lose to one of these
I hope he'll win so the foreshadowing won't be for nothing, but I won't go crazy if he lose... especially if he does beat Paul and make it to the top 4

 

[Cybersai]

I'm sure Ash can beat Nando. Nando might beat Dawn in the Grand Festival but if Ash comes against him I'm sure Ash would win.

Plus I really think Ash Vs. Paul would be the final battle of the league. It doesn't make sense to see anyone come after Paul, which is why I really think Ash Vs. Paul will be the final battle of the league.

Paul's 6 on 6 victory and the foreshadowing of the Elite 4 all makes it seem like Ash will win this time. I hope the writers don't throw all those foreshadowing out the window.

 

[Piplup]

I totally agree with that but we better get prepared for the worst case