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I've watched nearly 600 episodes so the idea of watching through another generation and even hundreds of more episodes doesn't bother me. In fact, I kind of like that since I can always have some Pokemon episode to watch. Since there are a lot of arcs already, I can also watch them at different times so it doesn't get dull or old. Plus, watching an older saga again almost makes it feel like it's new again to me.
I voted for indifferent. I'm honestly not expecting Ash to win the Shinnoh League. That would be kind of cool if it happens, but I'm not betting on that either. As long as Ash beats Paul and possibly makes it to the Top Four instead of the Top Eight, then I'll be happy.
I'm also not watching the show to see Ash win a major region league. If that was my only reason for watching the show, I probably would have stopped ages ago. I love the show for what it is and I feel relaxed when I watch it.
I would have agreed with you if Ash would been able to beat at least 4 of Paul's Pokémon.
I swear i'm getting tired of people saying that, if your gonna try to conquere something in life you either go through it all or don't even try it,
if he does challenge the sinnoh E4 (which personally I don't see happening) then he better beat all of them including cynthia.
hopefully it will make him realise that he needs to do more than just train new rookies all the time.
logically reasonable
nothing is for certain in this show
he doesn't have much personality as a character anymore.
You know, when we met Wallace, he actually DID seem to stop his journey. Even Cynthia seemed to stop. I mean, if they didn't stop, why aren't they challenging Gyms in other regions? Instead, Cynthia seems to be in Title Defense constantly, and Wallace seems to have given up League training altogether.
Dawn would end up having to leave the main cast
Yeah, and we had hints that he would win the Hoenn League, and look what happened.
Well, as soon as he's absolutely sure that he's absolutely mastered everything there is, and he is absoulutely sure that he's now a Pokemon Master afterwards, it's a given that he might retire.
Well, seeing how the Battle Frontier was implied to be of the same level as or even greater than the Elite 4, even if winning the league wasn't the same as beating Cynthia, beating the Battle Frontier sure is.
Well, I wouldn't really say that. I'm pretty sure if he wasn't stupid, he'd actually see through Team Rocket's disguises when they are directed at him.
However, other than that, yeah, he's not stupid.
May, I really objected to her reaction during the Kanto Grand Festival, since, you know, she DID cry over her loss.
he never cried when Harrison beat him
Having him suffer one real loss in a Pokemon Battle is not likely to change him.
Pikachu going from actually fighting and presumably beating Elite Four Pokemon to losing to random Gym Leaders.
Did Ash tell he wants to be Pokémon Master since Kanto? I honestly can't remember to hear the term Pokémon Master since then. Maybe writers even don't care for this term anymore.
Do you really want to wait till 2015?
But then the eventual win wouldn't be nearly as exciting as it'll be after that huge lose
WTF
One should do the best he can to achieve his goal
That's what Ash will do when he'll battle the E4
It's not like he know in advance he'll lose to Cynthia
Even if he did know that as a fact, he'd probably still battle for the challenge
Pokémon is suppoting the idea of giving it all and doing your best - but still know it's ok even if you lost
I'd prefer a more gradual improvement and see him lose to Cynthia but then beat next gen's champion
You're talking about a show that is all about:
1. Believing in your friends and know the power of friendship
2. Advertising (so they WILL have him use mainly/only the new Poké each gen)
And don't forget the writers play with Poké's strength as they want
A cartoon for kids that teach the viewers about the power of friendship > logic
Poké was never supposed to be "logical"
We don't know how many Grand Festivals / League both of these won, we barely know anything about their past
So we can't really learn much from them
Also - they're much older than Ash is... and since the anime doesn't make them grow up, he'll stay a kid forever
AND let's not forget Ash really wants to travel... he even refused to be a brain for it
I doubt Ash will be happy to get stuck in a place as a Leader/Brain/Champion/whatever
He wants to travel
Keep dreaming, won't happen at least until gen 5 begin
And the fact they stick closer to the games this gen doesn't mean much, the games didn't provide much they can work with to fill the time so they'll have to make up something
I didn't see any hint to that at all
And winning ONE league is not enough
Just because someone beat X and X is supposedly "stronger than Y" that doesn't mean this person will 100% be able to beat Y
Battles have much more to them than this - and luck is also one of the factors
You can't know in advance who will win in a battle
Weedle, me and others already explained to you about the TRio thing, let's not get into it again (especially one mostly everyone else in their world doesn't get it either, so you can't use it to prove Ash's brain level)
Remember she finally beat Drew who was an important rival/friend for her and got into the semi-final so it's understandable
It's no different than BF->Sinnoh
And there's nothing really wrong with it, fans just overexaggerate everything
actually, this loss made things a lot less exciting. I mean, they already had Ash's Pikachu win against Regice ALL BY ITSELF, yet that loss against Ursaring basically made what Ash did throughout the entire career, especially Ash's win against Brandon, seem like it never happened.
Will it really matter? He already beat Brandon (whom, btw, would be either slightly or far stronger than Cynthia in any case), so him losing against Cynthia would actually be unrealistic (By that, I mean even by the show's standpoint.)
I'd buy that with Pikachu if they had Pikachu merely deliver the final blow on Regice rather than beat it outright. Seeing how he did beat Regice outright, the whole "playing with Poke's strengths" excuse isn't valid, since how Pikachu is being treated is far too unrealistic even FOR this show.
If they wanted to make absolute certain that the fanbase got it in their heads that the regional Champions are allowed to travel to new regions and face off against Gym Leaders, they would have had a brief line of dialogue confirming that. They didn't.
Besides, Misty wanted to travel as well, she didn't even want to be at the gym, but she was left with no other choice because of her sisters being unreliable, and that she has no other relative to turn to.
They had Ash actually doing a Trade, despite his earlier statements about how he will never trade.
they even confirmed Pikachu's gender despite official claims that Pikachu's gender will never be revealed
what makes you think they'll actually have Dawn remain until the 5th Gen starts.
Don't mention the Elite 4, since I already mentioned how Ash had met Elite 4 members throughout his journey and he still didn't win the regional league.
If that is the case, why is it that people are claiming that TRio are a bunch of pathetic losers ever since they lost to a Caterpie?!
Then why didn't Ash cry when he met a similar loss in the Johto League?
Umm no he is pretty stupid and he did used to whine like a bitch when he lost a big fight.He's not stupid and the days where he cried over a lose were like 10 years ago
Do people even watch the show they're talking about?
But if he does lose, I'll be prepared to enjoy the next region the anime throws right at us. Anything for the upcoming 5th Generation.
Umm no he is pretty stupid and he did used to whine like a bitch when he lost a big fight.
terrible story lines.
But yeah all in all, you just seem like a fan boy that cannot stand to watch someone else express their opinion.
Ash WAS stupid in his beginner days
My reaction would be, "I knew it." I strongly doubt Ash will ever win a major league. It leaves too little room for character development. They'd probably make him win the very last league, but I suspect (hopefully a long time from now) the show will end with a fizzle, not a bang, and the writers won't get to plan that.
I kind of like him not winning. He's an excellent trainer, but he's hardly the best of the best. It's perfectly realistic how they handle him in competitions, and I like that.