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Who Will Be The Champion; Steven or Wallace?

Who Will Be The Champion?

  • Steven

    Votes: 78 81.3%
  • Wallace

    Votes: 18 18.8%

  • Total voters
    96
Steven had better be champion. There's not much incentive for me to get these games but one of the few is that I can finally rematch Steven, who I have never been able to beat or forgot to go find.

So far he beat me all the time in Ruby and I never finished.
Beat me on my first run through on Emerald and I didn;t go back to challenge him again
Then on my 2013 emerald re run I forgot to go find him before transfering my mons.

So yeah me and Steven have beef, this goes way back to 2003 and has been unresolved since.
 
You know what would be crazy is if Steven and Wallace are co-champions and you have to face them in a tag battle. The other option is they alternate between each other between Hall of Fame runs depending on the version.
 
It's gonna be Wallace. Callin' it right now. Or maybe it will be one for each version. The reason I'm saying Wallace is because the G/S remakes were mixed Crystal. And Emerald is the most updated of Ruby and Sapphire.
 
I hope it'll be Steven. Battling a Water champion after fighting an Ice-type trainer who's got 3/5 a team of Waters, after crossing a sea of Water-types, after fighting a Water-type 8th Gym leader, after (possibly) battling a Water legendary? Too much water. @-@

Even though I love Hoenn's water, that is really too much water. And yet people want diversity in battles while asking for Wallace?

Steven should be the champion.


I hope it's Steven because then they would have an excuse to give Metagross a Mega Evo.
Then again, if it is Wallace, Milotic could get a Mega Evo. Mega Milotic... wow, such hype.
But i want Mega Metagross... :(

Wynaut both?
Fine, Champion Double Battle against Steven and Wallace, Steven with Mega Metagross and Wallace with Mega Milotic.
I seriously do not hope it is a double battle. Maybe as a post-game battle as a bonus, but not before the credits. A champion double battle feels as if they can't fight a single challenger on their own. Tate and Liza were excusable since they're kids just like the protag and they use only 2 (4 in Emerald) pokemons.

But champions battling the challenger 2:1? That makes them look individually...underwhelming :/ A champion has to look overwhelming, not underwhelming. Even Archie and Maxie didn't charge on us 2:1.
 
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Fine, Champion Double Battle against Steven and Wallace, Steven with Mega Metagross and Wallace with Mega Milotic.
I seriously do not hope it is a double battle. Maybe as a post-game battle as a bonus, but not before the credits. A champion double battle feels as if they can't fight a single challenger on their own. Tate and Liza were excusable since they're kids just like the protag and they use only 2 (4 in Emerald) pokemons.

But champions battling the challenger 2:1? That makes them look individually...underwhelming :/ A champion has to look overwhelming, not underwhelming. Even Archie and Maxie didn't charge on us 2:1.

I said that out of randomness but yeah it would be better as a post-game thing but they would be basically fighting you at half power, one with three pokemon, the other with three pokemon and you with six, so i don't see how it would make them look underwhelming, it would be actualy overwhelming because you are fighting two at once. Also why would Archie and Maxie fight you both at once? They see each other as enemies.
 
Steven probably since it's RS and not E. I see some E stuff making it but I doubt Wallace being champ is one of them. What that means for Juan is anyone's guess though.

I like the idea of Wallace replacing after you beat the game but then again aren't you the champion, why would Wallace suddenly jump in.
 
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Fine, Champion Double Battle against Steven and Wallace, Steven with Mega Metagross and Wallace with Mega Milotic.
I seriously do not hope it is a double battle. Maybe as a post-game battle as a bonus, but not before the credits. A champion double battle feels as if they can't fight a single challenger on their own. Tate and Liza were excusable since they're kids just like the protag and they use only 2 (4 in Emerald) pokemons.

But champions battling the challenger 2:1? That makes them look individually...underwhelming :/ A champion has to look overwhelming, not underwhelming. Even Archie and Maxie didn't charge on us 2:1.

I said that out of randomness but yeah it would be better as a post-game thing but they would be basically fighting you at half power, one with three pokemon, the other with three pokemon and you with six, so i don't see how it would make them look underwhelming, it would be actualy overwhelming because you are fighting two at once. Also why would Archie and Maxie fight you both at once? They see each other as enemies.

I would agree that it should be a post-game thing, maybe even with the player teaming up with Wally against them. It would be like the battle against Lance and Clair in HGSS. But I think having a champion double battle diminishes them individually, and raises the question as to how they got there in the first place.
I think a double battle with Maxie and Archie would be cool for a postgame bonus, considering that the teams are disbanded by then.



Steven's most likely to be the Champion, as many have said this isn't an Emerald remake. Although I could see Wallace making it in but with a more diverse team. His team would probably be like Iris's in that it has 3 or so Water types and 3 of other types.
 
Fine, Champion Double Battle against Steven and Wallace, Steven with Mega Metagross and Wallace with Mega Milotic.
I seriously do not hope it is a double battle. Maybe as a post-game battle as a bonus, but not before the credits. A champion double battle feels as if they can't fight a single challenger on their own. Tate and Liza were excusable since they're kids just like the protag and they use only 2 (4 in Emerald) pokemons.

But champions battling the challenger 2:1? That makes them look individually...underwhelming :/ A champion has to look overwhelming, not underwhelming. Even Archie and Maxie didn't charge on us 2:1.

I said that out of randomness but yeah it would be better as a post-game thing but they would be basically fighting you at half power, one with three pokemon, the other with three pokemon and you with six, so i don't see how it would make them look underwhelming, it would be actualy overwhelming because you are fighting two at once. Also why would Archie and Maxie fight you both at once? They see each other as enemies.


Imagine two fully grown men picking a fight with a ten year old kid. And what's more, the kid wins over them both.

If that doesn't make them look underwhelming, or even pitiful, then idk.

As for Archie Maxie, I meant as separate teams, even they didn't attack a ten year old kid 2 on 1. Maxie and Tabitha fought with us when we were teamed up with Steven (heck, they didn't even attack Steven 2 on 1 either)

So yeah. As a post game battle, maybe when we team up with Wally or something it would be a nice game, but not before the credits.
 
Fine, Champion Double Battle against Steven and Wallace, Steven with Mega Metagross and Wallace with Mega Milotic.
I seriously do not hope it is a double battle. Maybe as a post-game battle as a bonus, but not before the credits. A champion double battle feels as if they can't fight a single challenger on their own. Tate and Liza were excusable since they're kids just like the protag and they use only 2 (4 in Emerald) pokemons.

But champions battling the challenger 2:1? That makes them look individually...underwhelming :/ A champion has to look overwhelming, not underwhelming. Even Archie and Maxie didn't charge on us 2:1.

I said that out of randomness but yeah it would be better as a post-game thing but they would be basically fighting you at half power, one with three pokemon, the other with three pokemon and you with six, so i don't see how it would make them look underwhelming, it would be actualy overwhelming because you are fighting two at once. Also why would Archie and Maxie fight you both at once? They see each other as enemies.


Imagine two fully grown men picking a fight with a ten year old kid. And what's more, the kid wins over them both.

If that doesn't make them look underwhelming, or even pitiful, then idk.

As for Archie Maxie, I meant as separate teams, even they didn't attack a ten year old kid 2 on 1. Maxie and Tabitha fought with us when we were teamed up with Steven (heck, they didn't even attack Steven 2 on 1 either)

So yeah. As a post game battle, maybe when we team up with Wally or something it would be a nice game, but not before the credits.

Age doesn't matter in Pokemon, the skill of the trainer and the Pokemon used are what matter, you are basically saying that every evil Team is pathetic and underwhelming because they get their ass kicked by a 10 year old, also Double Battle would prevent you from sweeping their team, something that it's really easy to do when you fight them individualy. But yeah it would probably be better as post-game but i would be fine with either or an idea, you fought them in tag team with Wally and then you would fight Wally to be the Champion.
 
Going with Steven, mainly because it's R/S instead of Emerald, but they're will probably be other places to add aspects from that game.
 
My guess (and hope) is that it's Steven.

Maybe one in OR and the other in AS, though? That'd be more interesting~
 
But yeah it would probably be better as post-game but i would be fine with either or an idea, you fought them in tag team with Wally and then you would fight Wally to be the Champion.

Fighting them in a tag team with Wally would be much better than having to battle both of them alone.

Also
This confirms that they are remakes:
The announcement was made only yesterday, so we were unable to include them in the supplementary document for this financial briefing, but the latest installments from the Pokémon franchise, “Pokémon Omega Ruby” and “Pokémon Alpha Sapphire” will be released globally for Nintendo 3DS in November this year. They are full-remakes of the Game Boy Advance “Pokémon Ruby” and “Pokémon Sapphire” games, which sold more than 5.44 million units in Japan and more than 16.22 million units worldwide.

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While they might include stuff from Emerald like the Battle Frontier and others, the whole basis is from Pokemon Ruby and Pokemon Sapphire - which Steven was the champion. Like many said, not an Emerald remake.

Steven is more likely to stay champion.
 
Considering it is a remake of Ruby and Sapphire, I'd say Steven will be the champion. I prefer Steven to Wallace, so I will be fine with Steven fulfilling the role of Champion.
 
What I'd like to happen is this

  • Contests return and Juan is a competitor at Master Rank
  • Wallace is the gym leader and his role as the guardian of the Cave of Origin is explored, while Steven is Champion
    • We learn that both Steven and Wallace both challenged the Elite 4 at the same time, leading to a situation similar to Red and Blue, where they fought each other for the Championship. Steven became the Champion first, but Wallace defeated him.
    • Wallace, however, was called on to succeed his mentor to become the guardian of the Cave of Origin, necessitating his return to Sootopolis and take the role of the Sootopolis Gym Leader.
  • After the Cave of Origin event, Groudon and Kyogre had left the Hoenn region, freeing Wallace from his constraints as the Cave of Origin's guardian.
  • Steven wishes to return the Champion title to Wallace (which he mentions to you in battle), but you beat him, passing the title onto you.
  • Wallace becomes a post-game character similar to Steven, and challenges you to a battle since he was the "true" Champion, and vows to battle you without the restraint placed upon him as his role as gym leader.
    • In this battle, he is referred to as "Guardian Wallace"
    • His team is much stronger and consists of entirely new Pokemon, including Mega Milotic
  • When you return to Sootopolis gym, you see Juan has taken Wallace's role as the gym leader for rematches.
 
I honestly think Wallace will be champion, and Steven will be more of a support role studying mega evolutions since they exist now. Maybe.
 
If Mega Milotic turns out to be Water/Fairy, that could be reason for Wallace to be Champion, because I think Game Freak would like to make another focus on Fairy type. It would also symbolise how Wallace surpassed Juan and Water/Dragon typing of Kingdra.
 
If Steven will be the Champion in the games, perhaps Mega Aggron will be his new signature Pokémon unless Metagross gets a Mega Evolution too in these games.

There are just so many options in these remakes about how the Champion, but also the Gym roster will be like. Just the speculation makes me so excited! :D
 
Seriously? Iris and Lance are DRAGON masters. While not all of Lance's Pokémon were of that type, they were all dragons. Why is Wallace getting so much hate? Plus Steven is a STEEL specialist who uses nothing but Steel and ROCK types. Brawly alone could kick his ass.

Anyways, Ruby focuses on expanding the land, where steel and stones are. Steven can be the Champion there.

Sapphire focuses on expanding the sea. Wallace can be the Champion there.

But since remakes usually take more from the 3rd version than the paired ones (Crystal, HG/SS) it'll probably go to the Emerald scenario with Wallace as Champion with Steven as a super-boss like Red.
 
Seriously? Iris and Lance are DRAGON masters. While not all of Lance's Pokémon were of that type, they were all dragons. Why is Wallace getting so much hate? Plus Steven is a STEEL specialist who uses nothing but Steel and ROCK types. Brawly alone could kick his ass.

Anyways, Ruby focuses on expanding the land, where steel and stones are. Steven can be the Champion there.

Sapphire focuses on expanding the sea. Wallace can be the Champion there.

But since remakes usually take more from the 3rd version than the paired ones (Crystal, HG/SS) it'll probably go to the Emerald scenario with Wallace as Champion with Steven as a super-boss like Red.

If it's like that, then most of the battles in the entire game will be consisted of Water-types. Team Aqua specializes in Water-types. There are swimmers on almost every route that uses Water-types. Half the map is filled with Wingulls and Tentacools. The 8th gym has trainers and a leader using Water-types. And then a Water-type champion?

Isn't that too much water?
 
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