- Jul 12, 2011
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Exactly. That is not how you conduct a final battle. Greninja obliterating Mega Charizard X with its Mega Shuriken and then just fainting is ridiculous. If there was more of a struggle, more tension instead of just "Woah!! Look at cool and at each other they are!!!" Greninja losing would have been more satisfying - you could say you're still disappointed that Ash lost, but feel satisfaction from how the battle turned out and that Ash is really a strong and amazing trainer. I felt none of them despite expecting Ash to lose more than winning, so there was no satisfaction. There's also the stigma that people are bored of Ash and having to face a loss in every league. It's just very demoralizing to watch a show and knowing how the badge quest will end. There's also the fact that Alain didn't even want to win the league and only joined it because Ash was joining, so it's not like there's the tension of both sides having struggled a lot to get to the point that they are.As for the whole episode, there was a "Ash is doing really well" waves everywhere. No conflict no anything, which meant the worse hasn't happened yet and the worst was him losing. The fact that there was nothing to keep you on the edge of the seat until the last moment was a pretty big indicator that Ash was going to lose. If he was going to win, there was going to be some sort of a struggle (take Paul's Drapion for example).
Man, this what shit writing actually is.It was written for ash to win. They teased it so hard. The show and corocoro said"greninjas never beaten his charizard" and also atleast make him knockout from attack not out of energy. Especially considering the next games dont have a league. If serena or shota doesent come to alola im done til an xy like omg this is good again happens
Alola won't have a league it will be like Orange islands and Battle frontier, so of course he will win it. Then lose the league again next season, rinse repeat.I knew that Ash would lose against Alain. I'd say "better luck in Alola", but it is already foregone conclusion that Ash will lose in the Alola League as well. And the Generation VIII league. And Generation IX and X and so on. All this hype for nothing, and proof that Ash will never ever win a league.
The anime has officially jumped the shark.
But Team Flare as an organization was introduced very late in the series. Why should that justify the League being treated more as an afterthought? Of course if you don't think it was an afterthought, that's fine, but considering the outcome and how the last 10 minutes of the episode was more focused on Team Flare, it's hard to not think of it as an afterthought.Seriously, awesome episode. If the battle wasn't good enough, we get a great beginning for the Flare Arc which is our true final battle.
As far as we know, we have little idea what Alola will bring. Maybe there will be gyms as a secondary challenge (to remain faithful to the franchise). Maybe there will be a league after conquering all islands, with its own Elite Four and Champion. But all we know for the next series: new companions, new Pokémon, a league, a clash with Team Skull with a poorly written or Lighter and Softer plot than the games, Litten coming from an abusive trainer (if Ash catches it), and Ash losing the league to the surprise of absolutely nobody above the age of 3.Alola won't have a league it will be like Orange islands and Battle frontier, so of course he will win it. Then lose the league again next season, rinse repeat.
Actually, it was introduced pretty early on in the first Mega Evolution Act back before Satoshi even had his second Gym Battle, so you can't pretend they were an afterthought. Also, who knows when the anime producers started planning the Zygarde act... they could have known about the different forms even back then.But Team Flare as an organization was introduced very late in the series.
I'm not happy with how the battle turned out but I'm not letting it spoil my day! It's just an exchange of opinions and perspectives. You may be feeling okay with it just because the initial shocked passed - your hope was crushed but it wasn't something that was personally important and like you said you accepted it as a possibility.You know what? I'm totally ok. It's strange, but I'm not upset at all even though I went in hoping for Ash to win.
Maybe it's because I accepted this as a possibility, or perhaps there's some other reason. Maybe it's just me not letting the result of a major anime battle spoil my day. This is, after all, not real. I could be bitter and salty but what would it achieve?
Lysandre was, but we didn't get that much focus on him until XYZ started. That's why I said as an organization.Actually, it was introduced pretty early on in the first Mega Evolution Act back before Satoshi even had his second Gym Battle, so you can't pretend they were an afterthought. Also, who knows when the anime producers started planning the Zygarde act... they could have known about the different forms even back then.