Your controversial opinions

[Sheep40]

GameFreak's "we still want to be smol indie company" actually originates from Gunpei Yokoi's "Lateral thinking with withered technology" approach, and as with all things Nintendo they will probably never change it.

 

[Daren]

as with all things Nintendo they will probably never change it.

GameFreak isn't part of Nintendo. They've got games on Steam.

Ed: That said I don't think GF is changing anytime soon because there's no incentive to.

 

[FelipePR]

GameFreak isn't part of Nintendo. They've got games on Steam.

Ed: That said I don't think GF is changing anytime soon because there's no incentive to.

Yes, they have a single game on Steam which, based on the number of reviews, must have resulted in a loss.

The reality is that they are dependent on the Pokémon franchise and, subsequently, on the Nintendo. However, they have been squirming for years for a little more freedom.

 

[Greninjaman]

Yes, they have a single game on Steam which, based on the number of reviews, must have resulted in a loss.

The reality is that they are dependent on the Pokémon franchise and, subsequently, Nintendo. However, they have been squirming for years for a little more freedom.

What game is it that they have on Steam?

 

[BorealRookidee]

What game is it that they have on Steam?

A few, actually.

GIGA WRECKER on Steam

Become more than human and save mankind from total annihilation! From legendary developer Game Freak comes an action adventure like no other - manipulate the world around you and smash the evil Ajeet to smithereens!

store.steampowered.com

Little Town Hero on Steam

Game Freak, the developer of the Pokémon series has released a brand new RPG on Steam! The battle system is entirely unique, with mechanics in common with digital collectible card games. You need to select characters carefully to put yourself in an advantageous position to win.

store.steampowered.com

TEMBO THE BADASS ELEPHANT on Steam

Shell City is plunged into a state of emergency after coming under attack from the devastating forces of PHANTOM. As the National Army struggle to contain the terrifying war machines, they call upon the only thing that stands between Shell City’s obliteration and its salvation; the peanut...

store.steampowered.com

 

[FelipePR]

A few, actually.

Its situation is worse than I thought, then.

 

[Sheep40]

It would be unwise to blame GF entirely for the "Smol indie company" mentality as, as stated above, this principle is how Nintendo works period. Pokemon games are always released on Nintendo systems, and Nintendo is unlikely to join the console wars armistice any time soon.

 

[Fairy Type Arceus]

We don't need all the pokemon in every game. Mighty keef put it best when dexit happened "I was just gonna catch 20 of those ******s and call it a day." When have you ever played a pokemon game and used it's entire dex? Even after having played it a dozen times. Even in games with all the pokemon, say you decided "I wanna play cyndaquil in x and y" you had to A. Get it from Bank from HGSS (no longer an option)
B trade it from ORAS
You had to go out of your way to get it early enough in the game where it's not immediately pointless by playing another game first. And at that point play that game that gives you access to cyndaquil. (this can be applied to any pokemon in a non dexit game this is just an example, don't get me started on using cyndaquil in any gen 3 game)

 

[There Is No Arceus]

We don't need all the pokemon in every game. Mighty keef put it best when dexit happened "I was just gonna catch 20 of those ******s and call it a day." When have you ever played a pokemon game and used it's entire dex? Even after having played it a dozen times. Even in games with all the pokemon, say you decided "I wanna play cyndaquil in x and y" you had to A. Get it from Bank from HGSS (no longer an option)
B trade it from ORAS
You had to go out of your way to get it early enough in the game where it's not immediately pointless by playing another game first. And at that point play that game that gives you access to cyndaquil. (this can be applied to any pokemon in a non dexit game this is just an example, don't get me started on using cyndaquil in any gen 3 game)

the issue is that every pokemon is someone's favorite. My favorite (Whiscash) has fortunately made it into every game since its introduction, but i can imagine people might not like it if the pokemon they love most can't join their team in the most recent game

 

[Jon Watercooler]

And? always being able to use you favourite isn't neccesairily a good thing...

 

[guzmania]

And? always being able to use you favourite isn't neccesairily a good thing...

not in real life, where it's important to expand your horizons and step out of your comfort zone once in a while, but i fail to see how it isn't harmless in the context of pokemon?

 

[zoroarctic]

the issue is that every pokemon is someone's favorite. My favorite (Whiscash) has fortunately made it into every game since its introduction, but i can imagine people might not like it if the pokemon they love most can't join their team in the most recent game

On the flip side, being forced to use other options could lead players to develop fondness for new Pokémon.

 

[There Is No Arceus]

On the flip side, being forced to use other options could lead players to develop fondness for new Pokémon.

true; i usually first do a run using only new guys before i ever do a playthrough where i use all my old favorites. Gained quite a love for Ceruledge the last time around. For the record, i was playing devil's advocate when giving my arguments against Dexit; i think it was inevitable and i don't hold it against GF

 

[Die-Hard Dragon Devotee]

On the flip side, being forced to use other options could lead players to develop fondness for new Pokémon.

Just one of the reasons Black and White was so so great in my opinion, as it forced people to use the new Pokemon instead of just being able to use your beloved (insert favorite Kanto Pokemon here) for the hundrenth time.

 

[zoroarctic]

Just one of the reasons Black and White was so so great in my opinion, as it forced people to use the new Pokemon instead of just being able to use your beloved (insert favorite Kanto Pokemon here) for the hundrenth time.

Same. White was my first Pokémon game in 8 years, and I found it more enjoyable to basically wing it with the new ‘Mons instead of falling back on what i already knew.

 

[Pasio]

All forcing people to use the new group of Pokemon does is needlessly restrict the way many people play the game. It's not a good thing by any means. If you want to only use new Pokemon, go ahead. Don't force everyone to remove themselves away from everything they're familiar with. A lot of people most enjoy Pokemon with their old friends, and that's perfectly okay. Not only does it needlessly restrict gameplay, it makes the game more barren in the long-run as the game ends up having much fewer Pokemon than it could have had otherwise and the idea loses any appeal or meaning after approximately 1 run ever, making the game have very low replayability.

 

[Daren]

On the flip side, being forced to use other options could lead players to develop fondness for new Pokémon.

Well, some people just don't work that way; I've personally never fallen in love with a Pokémon I'm only using because the one I actually wanted isn't available; necessity isn't going to make me suddenly like a design I found unappealing or the way it works in-game (there are some franchises where that sort of things happened for me, but something about the way mainline Pokémon's SP is built seems to prevent it).

Edit: The split version thing is also relevant, I think. For instance I liked Medicham's design but my 3rd gen game was Emerald; if the series always did the B/W thing I'd have just never had an opportunity to use Medicham.

 

[Jon Watercooler]

love how we're in a controversial opinions thread and the opinion that everyone's disagreeing with is that dexit bad.
also, if none of your favoourites are in the game, then you really do need to find new favourites

 

[paleogamer11]

Well, some people just don't work that way; I've personally never fallen in love with a Pokémon I'm only using because the one I actually wanted isn't available; necessity isn't going to make me suddenly like a design I found unappealing or the way it works in-game (there are some franchises where that sort of things happened for me, but something about the way mainline Pokémon's SP is built seems to prevent it).

Edit: The split version thing is also relevant, I think. For instance I liked Medicham's design but my 3rd gen game was Emerald; if the series always did the B/W thing I'd have just never had an opportunity to use Medicham.

Interestingly enough, the B/W thing I believe was meant to be done as far back as the third generation, which explains why there aren’t that many returning Pokémon in the Hoenn region.

 

[Sheep40]

There really needs to be a dedicated seperate competitive battle pokemon game with all pokemon in it so that way dex limitations don't cause issues with future main series games.