UK Video Game Championships qualifier winner disqualified: Play! Pokémon manager rele

[ocelotlrama jaguar]

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Wow. Just, wow... goodness. I don't know what brought this on, but way to ruin a good thing.

I've seen this guy post on smogon, and he did seem a bit hyper to me. Not arrogant, just hyper. And hyper may be putting it mildly. The way he talks online, he must bounce off walls offline. Goodness gracious. I really hope he learns something from this.

 

[Zistal]

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A few days later, this story still doesn't make any sense to me. It is truly disgraceful to the Pokemon community as a whole, and I'm a bit worried it might give everyone a bad rep because of one idiot's actions.

Raging over something is one thing, but poo flinging...? What in the world could drive someone to have that train of thought?

 

[Kahlar]

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I just read this on bulbanews and well... wow.
As a Spaniard I feel really ashamed for this, it really gives a bad image of spanish gamers to the world... sadly I can't say I'm surprised, we're a crappy country with crappy people. Even if it had not been Ruben there shitting on the hallways, I think some other spanish competitor would have done other stupid thing. Behaving like drunken ten year olds in international meetings is like a national tradition or something. Even our politicians do it.

 

[rubinek]

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@Kahlar - don't worry, I don't think anyone here applies the bad behaviour of one individual to the entire nation.

I suspect they were under the effect of alcohol, because as Watcher Mark has pointed out, no one sober wouldn't NOT notice that someone just pooped in their room. >.>

 

[TaiChiChasers]

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The people over on Smogon are actually defending Ruben. When I commented on a thread saying the punishment fit the crime, I got an infraction for "insulting him". How is it insulting if it really happened? I didn't call him any rude words or even swore at all. I believe it was biased because the staff member who gave me it is friends with Ruben. x.x

 

[Joshawott]

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^ I'd say that Smogon are embarrassed by the whole ordeal. After all, due to Ruben's previous performance at the Nationals events and Worlds, he's pretty much a "Celebrity" in the Pokémon community and he is known as a "Smogoner"; so their response is to become defensive about the whole ordeal.

As for alcohol accusations - I haven't seen anything concrete. A fellow Spanish player claimed that he was drunk on PokémonWorld (CTRL+F "Kefka"):

It was all Ruben's doing, he got drunk and... shit happened.

However, that's the only word I've found to indicate as such. I know people who witnessed Ruben and the Spanish being escorted out and if he was noticeably drunk, they would have said something, but they haven't, so I'd assume that he wasn't - drunk on adrenaline, possibly, but not alcohol.

 

[SaixBanana]

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Dave Schwimmer

But surely he would encourage going green by not using the toilet...

 

[winstein]

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I never knew about this until I saw it on PokeBeach, and this is... wow... unexpected. I never thought such a thing would happen. It sounded like an interesting story, so I went to other websites because I was curious at what the community elsewhere thought. As expected, Smogon is the only one who is on the former champion's side, believing in his innocence, and believing the he should be the champion (with the exception of a few pragmatic individuals), essentially defending him, and generally being mean to those who are not on the same side. Other websites I had seen (like PokeBeach) are more towards deriding his attitude, which is understandable because it is humiliating.

Speaking of Smogon believing in his innocence, that post that WatcherMark posted did a good job at showing how his reasoning won't do a good job at persuading many people about his innocence. It might mean that Smogon would be ridiculed more because of him, even though it doesn't have to be this way, considering that at least half of the users there are the helpful kind.

It's certainly not a sensible attitude, but I hope that this is a good lesson to teach everyone to be more civil in any tournament.

Thanks for reading.

 

[Garren]

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The Pokemon Company did the right thing, from a business standpoint at least...you can argue about how fair it was for the guy to lose his title, but when you're a company that markets primarily towards a young audience, with their parents often being the ones who pay the bills, it's understandable that you wouldn't want to "endorse" actions that would ruin the company's image.

But I like to imagine that, having been absent from any major show since Friends, David Schwimmer really does run TPCI.

 

[RedSapphire]

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You guys should really link his side of the story as well.

The UK champion will be eliminated and why? here is my defense and the truth of what - Smogon Community

The people involved are claiming this is a case of racism.

If it was truly his friend who did it, he should have told his friend to pick it up immediately, and if he didn't, he'd report it to the hotel staff. Or better yet, threaten to tell the hotel staff if his friend did it in the first place.

I don't feel any sympathy for the guy.

derp derp derp sums this up very nicely. Even IF, for whatever reason, he's telling the truth--that it wasn't his fault--he could have done more about the situation; so he is, no matter how you look at it, in part responsible (if not in full).

The people over on Smogon are actually defending Ruben. When I commented on a thread saying the punishment fit the crime, I got an infraction for "insulting him". How is it insulting if it really happened? I didn't call him any rude words or even swore at all. I believe it was biased because the staff member who gave me it is friends with Ruben. x.x

I'm sorry that happened to you! D,: I can understand that they want to defend their "star player" and friend but what he did was wrong and shouldn't be condoned, even by friends.

The Pokemon Company did the right thing, from a business standpoint at least...you can argue about how fair it was for the guy to lose his title, but when you're a company that markets primarily towards a young audience, with their parents often being the ones who pay the bills, it's understandable that you wouldn't want to "endorse" actions that would ruin the company's image.

I definitely agree on this. And it's not even just from a business standpoint...this is an event where you're expected to display good, sportsmanlike behavior. Just like you wouldn't do this in the midst of a sports game, you wouldn't do this in the midst of a Pokemon tournament.

 

[Gollumbells]

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I think the genereal feelings behind this are that we are glad he was punished for his actions and that missing this years finals is fitting. But being banned indefinitely???????

Now that is not what would be good for the tournaments as a whole. The reason being is that alot of people hold his pokemon skills in high regard and will go out of their way to try and beat him, thus raising the game as a whole. I for one have an unsettled score with him for my VGC11 exit. We need players like ruben in to give it that "top class" and when I mean top class I am on about it in a sense of the top 4 of the premier league, Red Bull / Mclaren of F1 ect and not the jerks that rave on about the meta game and only pokemon x,y,z are good and if you use different ones you are stupid.

 

[Luminosity]

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I think TPCI should ban him until the 2013 Pokemon VGC Worlds are over. It's harsh, but it isn't ambiguous like an indefinite ban is, and I think the whole matter would go away more quickly if his supporters knew that he would be allowed to return.

 

[TaiChiChasers]

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Now even Smosh is reporting it. x.x

 

[Joshawott]

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Now even Smosh is reporting it. x.x

Where did they get the "World" bit from?

 

[Moonlight Umbreon]

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He was either drunk or just plain insane. Giving how it's hard to a good battler and an insane person at the same time, it's likely the first option. Though they should allow him to play the next time, as he needs an opportunity to play again, and without doing something as stupid as this.