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You think it unlocks different typings and/or abilities? Eh.As far as we know. There's still the mystery of Dynamax level
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You think it unlocks different typings and/or abilities? Eh.As far as we know. There's still the mystery of Dynamax level
You think it unlocks different typings and/or abilities? Eh.
None of these are reasons to ignore a Pokemon's design.To make stronger pokemon? Make useful and surprise oponent more? Allow it to fullfil other roles. Would allow it to escape Traps and perish song or curse combo.
They lose old effects and gain new ones, often quite powerful ones. And they're getting a big stat boost on top of that-they're not really suffering from it.Their movesets during form lose their old effects. Change of type and ability just makes sense especialy to make up for it.
Its previous forms could shadow claw it for SE. Charizards dont get rock moves.
It's not based on any gods at all. Big and powerful does not mean mythical or spiritual.Could. Thunder punch it but ghost or fairy would give it the special God lizard vibe that it seriously needs. Or a ability like Primal Groudon has.
Coming up with random type combos for imaginary designs isn't any more evidence for why the current design of GMax Charizard should be Ghost.Other pokes could get other types. Think of it longer. Gigantamax Octilery water/fairy , gigantamax Lapras ice/dragon and Machamp fighting/fire
....What? Milotic is literally just Water-type. What's flimsy about that?The same could be said about Altaria, Flygon, Gyraydos, Milotic, Galar Ponyta, Jynx and others.
Okay,. People are hipocrites first they wanted G-forms to be megas and now they fear changes and are sceptic of other ideas.
I only remember a supposed leak on 4chan saying when you achieve level 1 it boosts all stats by a stack. And each level increases the power cap of you max moves.You think it unlocks different typings and/or abilities? Eh.
I'm having Ultra Necrozma flashbacks here... Hopefully it won't be that bad.I only remember a supposed leak on 4chan saying when you achieve level 1 it boosts all stats by a stack. And each level increases the power cap of you max moves.
None of these are reasons to ignore a Pokemon's design.
They lose old effects and gain new ones, often quite powerful ones. And they're getting a big stat boost on top of that-they're not really suffering from it.
Its previous forms already have SE moves against it with Electric and Rock moves. Charizard learns Rock Slide and Rock Tomb-at this point you're just saying things without even checking to see if it makes sense.
It's not based on any gods at all. Big and powerful does not mean mythical or spiritual.
Coming up with random type combos for imaginary designs isn't any more evidence for why the current design of GMax Charizard should be Ghost.
....What? Milotic is literally just Water-type. What's flimsy about that?
Okay,
- Nobody is "afraid" of these changes-we're saying they don't make sense.
- The people saying GForms should be Megas are not necessarily the same people arguing with you. People have different opinions, that's not hypocrisy.
- We're skeptical of your ideas because they don't match what we have now. Nobody has said "I don't want GMax to change types", they're saying "It's confirmed they won't, and adding Ghost to Charizard doesn't make any sense"
Speculations for a type change? Why the hell would that mean that the current design of Milotic shouldn't be Water-type?Read about Milotic type change and speculations.
Why would an entirely different design be supporting evidence for GMax Charizard being Ghost-type? They changed its appearance so that it actually looks like a Ghost-type. GMax Charizard didn't.
Even if this theory was canon, it doesn't make sense to say that Charizard should get the Ghost type. Charizard would have hatched as a Charmander with a flame on its tail, not even close to death. And Cubone, supposedly Charmanders hatching without flames, aren't even Ghost-type themselves.
Yeah, fire elementals. Not ghosts.In the Deverry cycle by Katharine Kerr salamanders are primitive elemental spirits of fire. They are part of the race of spirits called Wildfolk and can be seen only by people with elven or dwarven blood or by people with magical talents. There is even a main character in the series who uses the nickname Salamander because he is very fond of the fire spirits.
In the Mana series, Salamander is one of the eight Mana spirits. representing the element of fire.
In the George R. R. Martin novel A Clash of Kings (1998), the character Melisandre of Asshai, a red-haired priestess of the God of Flame and Shadow, has a name that is a partial anagram of "salamander".
In Joseph Delaney's The Last Apprentice Book 6: Clash of the Demons,the most powerful type of fire elemental often takes on the form of a salamander.
In the NES game The Magic of Scheherazade, Salamander is the fire demon fought at the end of the fourth chapter.
Salamanders are in nobel emblems in France, UK and Ireland.
What is this supposed to prove? We all know that Charizard is popular. Being popular doesn't mean getting new types just because it'd make it more powerful-otherwise, Pikachu should be a new type immune to all other types, because it's so popular."In a poll conducted by IGN, it was voted as the "best Pokémon", where the staff commented about remembering being torn between choosing Blastoise and Charizard at the start of the game.[75][76] In a poll by Official Nintendo Magazine, Charizard was voted as the "best Fire-type Pokémon". They stated, "not only is Charizard your favourite fire Pokémon, but it is probably one of the most popular 'mon of all time".[77] Kotaku editor Patricia Hernandez criticized Charizard's Y Mega Evolution for not differing enough from Charizard's original design, while praising Mega Charizard X for changing color, and turning Charizard into a dragon-type.[78] Game Informer ranked Charizard as the "coolest Pokémon out of the original 151", describing it as "Powerful, gigantic, and imposing". They further commented that "Pikachu may be the one you recognize, but Charizard is the one you want."[79]
Because they wield mud-based attacks...Pokemon making sense? yeah like that many water creatures are ground types?
Interestingly enough, Pokemon's been trying to make sense and still coming up with cool things. Funny.Would be better to add to cool things cool stuff then to seek deep sense.
Megas also where said only to change form and appearence first and that was true... first... hope Gigantamax takes this route more, with type and ability changes.
Thats not a big problem. Interesting how they save coding and space with using storage data bases?Not gonna happen, they keep the the same typing and abilities.
You have too look at it at a coding perspective: Mega's were a permanent battle gimmick for the battle, Gigamax last only for 3 turns, so its a hassle to code it new typings and abilities for something that only last three turns and cannot even be used throughout the whole region, but only in specific locations. Especially since you don't only need to code in the typing and ability, but also need to change the moveset for a thing that only lasts for 3 turns.
I agree it isn’t happening but I think you drastically overestimate how difficult it would be to code these things (i.e.: not very).Not gonna happen, they keep the the same typing and abilities.
You have too look at it at a coding perspective: Mega's were a permanent battle gimmick for the battle, Gigamax last only for 3 turns, so its a hassle to code it new typings and abilities for something that only last three turns and cannot even be used throughout the whole region, but only in specific locations. Especially since you don't only need to code in the typing and ability, but also need to change the moveset for a thing that only lasts for 3 turns.
That's not far off from how Super Mystery Dungeon handled megasNot gonna happen, they keep the the same typing and abilities.
You have too look at it at a coding perspective: Mega's were a permanent battle gimmick for the battle, Gigamax last only for 3 turns, so its a hassle to code it new typings and abilities for something that only last three turns and cannot even be used throughout the whole region, but only in specific locations. Especially since you don't only need to code in the typing and ability, but also need to change the moveset for a thing that only lasts for 3 turns.
Well there's always the chance that G-Max Lapras will have a max move that acts like Perish SongWhats the best destiny bond user? A anti G-max strategy could be nice. Interesting if the encore, disable combo allows us to trap a G-MAX AND D-max pokemon in a strugle using loop?
My real annoyance however is toward Gigantamax in general. What really bothers me about it is if you've had a mon transferred over from a previous generation that you put a good amount of investment (getting as many ribbons as possible for it) into would be capable of such, it simply can't do so. Basically having to replace what you valued, or waste a slot for one that is capable of such honestly rubs me the wrong way. At least with Mega Evolution, any species capable of such need only the required mega stone for it and that was that.
They forget to mention that it can also use the flying or grass max move, both either sets up grassy terrain to heal, or boost speed. You have to remember only certain type changes to the g-max moveFrom what we've seen so far, Gigantamaxing isn't objectively better than Dynamaxing depending on what you want to accomplish. I was listening to a podcast that pointed out that Gigantamax Charizard's G-Max move sets up Fire Spin, but Dynamax Charizard's move sets up sun. I can think of a lot of people preferring the latter instead of the former, which means a "regular" Pokemon can still be useful this way.
I still think Pokemon getting giant pretty stupid, but the two mechanics really do seem to be balanced and provide a "best of both worlds" alternative to Megas and Z-Moves.