Mafia Build-It: Video Game Edition [DAY FIVE]

[ExLight]

I think this is a lie.

Correct me if my logic is incorrect, but there are currently 7 alive players and 5 active buildings. Each player can only have 1 active building at a time, so this would correspond to 5 players. 1 player does not have an active building since they destroyed Silent Hill while 1 player has an ambiguous/unknown status.

I know I'm that 1 player with that unknown status. And so far, my status in this game is that I have not received any blueprints for most of it and the first one I received is at the start of this phase. My blueprint's name is Lumbridge from Runescape.

So I believe ExLight had Silent Hill and destroyed it, and is now lying about his current status because it's possible that people would start tracing who has what.

I destroyed Mushroom Kingdom, I haven't gotten anything ever since

 

[ExLight]

First I figured it was Lissi or Othinus that silenced me because silencing someone is what you do when you don’t want them to talk. And most of my interaction has been with Othinus over Lissi. So I figured maybe they were mafia together and I was finding the flaw in their plan. It’s why I was fine switching to Lissi.

Why did you initially push for Caps then?

 

[ExLight]

Oh, you explained right after, sorry.

 

[ExLight]

Don’t give up everyone

Toast ISO:

Spoiler

Looks good in context with being the first player to claim as such. Also I think scum would be more careful to discuss their own blueprints, towny post.


Both NAI about phase length.

This post is contradictory, but policy lynching isn’t exactly the bravest of wagons.

R.I.P Mao, you will he remembered.



All blueprint mechanics, all NAI posts.

I like this post. More solvey than most of the other interactions Toast had.

I didn’t see this defense anywhere, or self-preservation at that. Is the saying you want someone dead based on voting? Low activity meta is correct. This was Day 2 I believe, why were you worried about being framed with the Stinger wagon so prominent?

Ohhh, the defensive was in response to me asking who they’d shoot. Yeah no, that was me asking for your top scum read, scum wouldn’t have used that to frame you, I see the defensiveness a bit.

Shade on Lissi.

Was the third vote on Mudkipz which looks decently good, I don’t see scum!Toast being confident enough to bus already one scum down, he was being shaded but there wasn’t much of a following behind a push on him.

And ending off with a decent post on blueprints, NAI on that front though.

Most likely yes, reiterating a sentiment we've had since early Day 1.

Lissi push here is decent, I am having my doubts that Lissi has New Vegas and instead is actually Silent Hill pretending to have another building and coincidentally "forgetting" to build it or even look at it even after multiple pushes to do so. Lissi is very quick witted so I would not put it past her to fake claim a building. But I digress, this is supposed to be a Toast Iso.

Good point on friendship too.

Mudkipz reasoning is good, albeit a bit late.

I actually quite like Toast's slot atm. First post on blueprints looks incredibly good in hindsight with what caught Mudkipz and Stinger out. Being one of the earlier votes on Mudkipz I think makes Toast look especially good too, as I said in the ISO no way scum!Toast busses that early there. Most recent Toast post is incredibly good imo and the only thing I could fault him on is the general unease to pick a read early on, but for a somewhat inexperienced and more passive player I just think they were nervous of being shot down and/or putting a target on their back.

@TheCapsFan If you don't want a tie, I'd say go Lissi. Imma ISO her in a bit, but I do not believe it will be much better than Toast's.
@Othinus @Divergent Why are you going after Toast?

I'm a bit confused as to why your read on toast is positive when all your analysis point to his posts as either NAI or shade/ opportunistic pushes.

 

[JamieIsBored]

I'm a bit confused as to why your read on toast is positive when all your analysis point to his posts as either NAI or shade/ opportunistic pushes.

Prolly just bias with my Lissi read being so strong. Toast has had some decent posts all game that are more aligned with Town!Toast than Scum!Toast from meta experience, also comes off better because the Mudkipz vote is likely never a bus there, as I explained earlier.

 

[Calvinッ]

10 Minutes until phase end.

There will be a pretty substantial delay on the update, just been informed I have to make a late night delivery but quickly wanted to make sure you guys were informed. Sorry for the delay!

 

[Calvinッ]

Spoiler: Mentions

@Midorikawa
@TheCapsFan
@ExLight
@Othinus
@Divergent
@toastghost

Spoiler: Role PM

Othinus,

You are a vanilla townie, with access to the following abilities:
Build <Blueprint Name>: This will build the building, giving you that location as your role, and the abilities that come with it.
Peek <Blueprint Name>: This will allow you to learn the exact abilities of the role, presented to you as though you had gotten the role PM.
Destroy <Blueprint Name> OR <Building>: This will allow you to completely remove a blueprint from the game, not allowing that location to return to yourself or any other player. You may also do the same for the building you have built, removing your role and allowing you to build something new.
Give <Blueprint Name> to <Player Name>: This will allow you to give your blueprint to another player.

You are sided with the Town, you win when all opposing forces have been removed from the game.

________________

Los Santos (Grand Theft Auto 5)
Your Life Path Choice: Once a game, you may pick one of the following life choices
Police Officer: Choose a target, learn if they are mafia or town, if applicable.
Paramedic: 1x Doctor
Gun Dealer: Choose a target, not yourself. You will give them a 1x DAY-vig, they must use it in the next day phase or it will expire.
FBI Agent: Choose a target, learn if they are independent or not.
PASSIVE: The Diamond Casino & Resort: Destroying this blueprint returns either 1, 2 or 3 random blueprints back

Othinus has been killed, they were sided with the Town!

Los Santos has been destroyed!

Lumbridge has been built!
The Nether has been built!

It is now Day Five, this phase will end at 22:00 BST, on the 28th April. Good luck!

Current Buildings:
Pokémon Center
Hyrule Field
Azeroth
Arkham Asylum
Lumbridge
The Nether

 

[ExLight]

PASSIVE: The Diamond Casino & Resort: Destroying this blueprint returns either 1, 2 or 3 random blueprints back

How does this work?

 

[ExLight]

I'm still a bit odded out by the kills this game.

I don't think Caps kills inactives earlier on? He usually likes to go for the throat.
I'll need to reread Jamie, but I can see him messing with us a bit to test his skills. I'm not sure he helps me put pressure on Stinger D1 as scum, though?
I think these two are my most solid Townreads, in this order.

My PoE is toast, Divergent, and Midorikawa.
I doubt someone that perceives players like Caps, Mido, me, and Jamie (or even Othinus and Divergent who actually been showing they're pretty good players) as threats goes and shoots Phantom and Quasar or keeps roleblocking lissi for little to no reason. One explanation I see for this is actually lack of meta, so not knowing who to single out.
An example of this happening is seeing Phantom inactive and thinking it's them laying low because of them having a power role (although is this even likely during N1 in this setup?). Divergent would follow a similar line of reasoning based on the team meta knowledge. Not knowing who are the major threats for mafia is an explanation for the weird kills.

While I REALLY don't get very towny vibes from toast like some other players, I don't think a team of Stormy + Toast + Mudkip goes for inactives, I feel like they'd get fairly intimidated by veterans and go for them instead. I know their morale drops as the game goes on, but he's really not that easy to read unless he's shutting in/ panicking when being pressed as scum, and I don't think this has happened throughout the game. Although him going quieter as mafia's situation got worse could be interpreted as that kicking in. Mixed feelings.

Mido I have overall negative feelings because her claiming to have been silenced is something scum her would definitely do (didn't she fake post restrictions as scum a few times this year). I often consider silencing a bastard (or at the very least semi-bastard) modifier and would not expect it in this game; and in the context of the flavor, it would also not make sense at all for Silent Hill to have that in their kit other than being a strange pun.

As it is right now I'm likely inclined towards (scummiest to towniest):
Midorikawa > toast > Divergent

I don't love this progression. Getting to Mudkip being scum from that strikes me as wanting to add a unique reason to it, but they present their vote as just following orders anyway.

Pretty much have it down to lissi or Toast. Outside chance of it being Cap but not really seeing it with how easy scum lynches have been to achieve this game.

Vote: @toastghost

Think I prefer this for now. I can see the angle with lissi and wouldn't really be against it but to me it just makes a bit more sense for it to be Toast - there is some shade towards lissi here if the goal is to just block her into oblivion.

I also think by now lissi would have just claimed something rather than stall it out but big day for her either way.

Othinus seems to have been pushing for toast, and would like push for him today, so if the kill was motivated by their reads this could be a place to start looking into. If they hinted or claimed getting a cop shot from the blueprint it probably leads to a dead end, though.

 

[Othinus]

Spoiler: Mentions

@Midorikawa
@TheCapsFan
@ExLight
@Othinus
@Divergent
@toastghost

Spoiler: Role PM

Othinus,

You are a vanilla townie, with access to the following abilities:
Build <Blueprint Name>: This will build the building, giving you that location as your role, and the abilities that come with it.
Peek <Blueprint Name>: This will allow you to learn the exact abilities of the role, presented to you as though you had gotten the role PM.
Destroy <Blueprint Name> OR <Building>: This will allow you to completely remove a blueprint from the game, not allowing that location to return to yourself or any other player. You may also do the same for the building you have built, removing your role and allowing you to build something new.
Give <Blueprint Name> to <Player Name>: This will allow you to give your blueprint to another player.

You are sided with the Town, you win when all opposing forces have been removed from the game.

________________

Los Santos (Grand Theft Auto 5)
Your Life Path Choice: Once a game, you may pick one of the following life choices
Police Officer: Choose a target, learn if they are mafia or town, if applicable.
Paramedic: 1x Doctor
Gun Dealer: Choose a target, not yourself. You will give them a 1x DAY-vig, they must use it in the next day phase or it will expire.
FBI Agent: Choose a target, learn if they are independent or not.
PASSIVE: The Diamond Casino & Resort: Destroying this blueprint returns either 1, 2 or 3 random blueprints back

Othinus has been killed, they were sided with the Town!

Los Santos has been destroyed!

Lumbridge has been built!
The Nether has been built!

It is now Day Five, this phase will end at 22:00 BST, on the 28th April. Good luck!

Current Buildings:
Pokémon Center
Hyrule Field
Azeroth
Arkham Asylum
Lumbridge
The Nether

Many thanks for the game!

 

[Midorikawa]

Mido I have overall negative feelings because her claiming to have been silenced is something scum her would definitely do (didn't she fake post restrictions as scum a few times this year). I often consider silencing a bastard (or at the very least semi-bastard) modifier and would not expect it in this game; and in the context of the flavor, it would also not make sense at all for Silent Hill to have that in their kit other than being a strange pun.

Bruh did you miss the host saying I was silenced? There was no faking that crap. Just me literally mixing up my mafias.

Vote: TheCapsfan

Even if he didn’t directly silence me, I’m standing by my reasoning. I think he knew I was silenced.

 

[ExLight]

Bruh did you miss the host saying I was silenced? There was no faking that crap. Just me literally mixing up my mafias.

Just reread it now, I guess he did confirm it
Hear me out, what if you silenced yourself

 

[Midorikawa]

Just reread it now, I guess he did confirm it
Hear me out, what if you silenced yourself

………….dude I’m am too tired for this crap.

 

[toastghost]

I didn’t see this defense anywhere, or self-preservation at that. Is the saying you want someone dead based on voting? Low activity meta is correct. This was Day 2 I believe, why were you worried about being framed with the Stinger wagon so prominent?

i think it was a mix of me completely misinterpreting what you meant by shoot and d1 paranoia

mastermind lissi was lynched, they were sided with themselves!

this + silent hill being destroyed seperately rules out any possibility of lissi faking the block in my mind. so now i'm curious as to the motivation between targeting lissi with that specifically? if scum was worried she had a power role or something it seems like a really random assumption, and with the scums we have so far they definitely seem more like the type to target veterans since they're more intimidating.

Part of the reason why I'm still suspicious of him is that his posting behavior is quite similar to Stormy's and Mudkipz's, in that, he pops up in the thread once or twice in a phase and then dips, which kind of matches with my expectation of what the scum team is like this time.

sorry for not being that active this game, but i don't think my activity has been that nai for me. this is pretty typical posting behavior for me in any mafia game.

Alright sorry had to wait for confirmation I was no longer silenced.

First I figured it was Lissi or Othinus that silenced me because silencing someone is what you do when you don’t want them to talk. And most of my interaction has been with Othinus over Lissi. So I figured maybe they were mafia together and I was finding the flaw in their plan. It’s why I was fine switching to Lissi.

Clearly that theory that they were both mafia was wrong.

Moving on. The thing that made me think it was caps. And I’m still suspicious of him. Is that before I posted he was looking to lynch me. Convenient that he wants to lynch me the exact day I’m silenced before I come out that I’m silenced. Even later in the day he was looking to lynch me despite it being revealed I was silenced and dumbly mixed up my mafias.

You should see me checking so carefully now.

I have not been that active or solving so there must have been a greater plan in action to silence Me. Caps trying to lynch me on the same day fits that pretty well.

Othinus has been killed, they were sided with the Town!

rest in peace

Although him going quieter as mafia's situation got worse could be interpreted as that kicking in. Mixed feelings.

hate to make another point about me just being inactive but i was honestly asleep or at school for a lot of today and yesterday which is why i've been so quiet

Othinus seems to have been pushing for toast, and would like push for him today, so if the kill was motivated by their reads this could be a place to start looking into. If they hinted or claimed getting a cop shot from the blueprint it probably leads to a dead end, though.

if i was scum i would not kill othinus right after they explicitly said i was their top scum read. i may be kinda stupid when it comes to mafia but i know that'll immediately make me look awful

 

[TheCapsFan]

Moving on. The thing that made me think it was caps. And I’m still suspicious of him. Is that before I posted he was looking to lynch me. Convenient that he wants to lynch me the exact day I’m silenced before I come out that I’m silenced. Even later in the day he was looking to lynch me despite it being revealed I was silenced and dumbly mixed up my mafias.

This is bullshit. I didn’t ever “want to lynch you before you posted.” The only thing I said even mildly suspecting you was this.

Why aren't we considering Mido again? I don't think anything she's done so far this game is outside her scum range.

You hadn’t solved much, as you admit, and like nobody was talking about you - which I found odd, knowing that everything you had done you could have been faking. So I brought it up. All I was doing was questioning why you were taken out of PoE by the rest of the game. Not trying to lynch you, otherwise I would have voted you then & there. Othinius responded with your vote history as I was looking back at it & then I agreed that yeah, you’re not out of PoE but you’re a lower priority target. And then I moved on, until you accused me of something I did NOT do. Then I voted you in retaliation.

Quit putting words in my mouth.

I have not been that active or solving so there must have been a greater plan in action to silence Me. Caps trying to lynch me on the same day fits that pretty well.

I can understand why you would think there could have been some greater plan from a town!you perspective though. Given that you had been quiet, you then question “why silence me over othinius” and it checks out. Your logic here is sound, albeit incorrect. Your claim that I went into the day trying to lynch you, though, is a massive exaggeration.

 

[TheCapsFan]

I destroyed Mushroom Kingdom, I haven't gotten anything ever since

Why would you destroy Mushroom Kingdom? Did you peek & see something bad?

Even if he didn’t directly silence me, I’m standing by my reasoning. I think he knew I was silenced.

I HAD NO IDEA. Thats why I OMGUS’d, which I tend not to do normally. In addition to the fact you faked tf outta a PR in one of your more recent games. I initially thought you were just trying to miselim me. Then I checked the vote history, and was just like “nah bc if she miselims me today then she gets offed tomorrow so unless she simply wants the game to end i dont think shed do that as scum.”