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Something I found a little funny came to my mind. One could view Alain as the anime staff's OC/SI, I mean think about it; He wears a lot of black and is more serious than Ash, along with being a little distant. One could even say he's 'edgey'. His strongest Pokemon is the series most popular starter and it had an exclusive(to to the anime, anyway. We never saw anyone else with a Mega CharX) for that turned it into a dragon-type. He was part of the evil team, though manipulated, won just about every battle he was in, beat Ash multiple times and never once lost to him and had two pseudo-legends on his team.

Now this isn't me trying to show some shade on Alain, I was personally never invested in Ash beating him in the league, though it would have been nice. Or at least Charizard could have looked more battered and tired. YOu don't hype up some new mega attack for the hero and then have it do next to nothing.
Wouldn't Tobias also be a staff OC? He was borderline invincible and apparently had a full team of legendaries/mythicals. He also has long, black hair with dark red clothes (something I have seen on edgy OCs). There's also the fact that he was just there to make Ash lose.

EDIT: Also, aren't Darkrai and Latios popular legends (or were at the time)?

EDIT 2: Also, his hair covers one of his eyes, another thing I have seen on edgy OCs.
 
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Something I found a little funny came to my mind. One could view Alain as the anime staff's OC/SI, I mean think about it; He wears a lot of black and is more serious than Ash, along with being a little distant. One could even say he's 'edgey'. His strongest Pokemon is the series most popular starter and it had an exclusive(to to the anime, anyway. We never saw anyone else with a Mega CharX) for that turned it into a dragon-type. He was part of the evil team, though manipulated, won just about every battle he was in, beat Ash multiple times and never once lost to him and had two pseudo-legends on his team.

Now this isn't me trying to show some shade on Alain, I was personally never invested in Ash beating him in the league, though it would have been nice. Or at least Charizard could have looked more battered and tired. YOu don't hype up some new mega attack for the hero and then have it do next to nothing.
Well, Alain WAS the protagonist for the Mega Evolution specials.
 
This is something that kind of touches both the anime and the games, although mostly the latter: I prefer Wallace as the Champion of Hoenn over Steven. May be because I've played Emerald more than any other Hoenn game, but I think Steven is cool enough as a post-game super boss who's even stronger than the Champion.
 
I think that the relationship that SM is trying to establish between Misty and Lana feels pretty forced. They had some nice moments during the Kanto field trip, but it wasn't enough for me to believe that Lana would keep in touch with Misty or that Lana would have a Misty fishing lure based on the preview for the upcoming episode. It seems like it was mostly done because they both like Water Pokemon, although it comes up so rarely for Lana that I honestly forget that she likes Water Pokemon.
 
I think that the relationship that SM is trying to establish between Misty and Lana feels pretty forced. They had some nice moments during the Kanto field trip, but it wasn't enough for me to believe that Lana would keep in touch with Misty or that Lana would have a Misty fishing lure based on the preview for the upcoming episode. It seems like it was mostly done because they both like Water Pokemon, although it comes up so rarely for Lana that I honestly forget that she likes Water Pokemon.
Really? I have to admit I disagree on two points here:
1. I'm surprised anyone feels that Suiren's affinity for water is brought up rarely. If it were brought up any more I think she'd be accused of being a one-trick pony!
a. Her ace is the regional water starter and her other Pokemon is a surfing Eevee.​
b. She's the water Z-user.​
c. She's always the first person to get into any given body of water/throw in a fishing rod.​
d. Whenever she's about to do a big sports hit she gets a visual water-themed power-up.​
e. She's from a fishing family, so water is a part of their fabric whenever they show up.​
f. Her jokes about hooking Kyogre are about to come true...​

2. I don't think Kasumi and Suiren keeping in touch is just because they're both water-type specialists. If anything I think that's almost coincidental, just a commonality which sparked the connection. Personality-wise they're both the sort of people to cultivate relationships including but not necessarily limited to close friends. We've seen it numerous times with Kasumi (Kenji, Takeshi, Sakura, Nanako) and Suiren has kept in touch not only with Kasumi but also I'a. Also, Kasumi's pretty proud of that damn lure so it's unsurprising that she'd give it to someone she considered a friend who also happens to fish.
 
Really? I have to admit I disagree on two points here:
1. I'm surprised anyone feels that Suiren's affinity for water is brought up rarely. If it were brought up any more I think she'd be accused of being a one-trick pony!
a. Her ace is the regional water starter and her other Pokemon is a surfing Eevee.​
b. She's the water Z-user.​
c. She's always the first person to get into any given body of water/throw in a fishing rod.​
d. Whenever she's about to do a big sports hit she gets a visual water-themed power-up.​
e. She's from a fishing family, so water is a part of their fabric whenever they show up.​
f. Her jokes about hooking Kyogre are about to come true...​
She has one Water Pokemon and hasn't shown any interest in catching more. That's a big reason why I don't think her preference for Water Pokemon comes up all that often. She likes the ocean and all, but I don't think that the focus on Water Pokemon comes up that often by comparison. Whenever she talks about Water Pokemon as if she's an expert, it usually just makes me think "Oh yeah, I guess you like Water Pokemon." A visual water themed power up isn't going to make me think that she likes Water Pokemon either.​
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2. I don't think Kasumi and Suiren keeping in touch is just because they're both water-type specialists. If anything I think that's almost coincidental, just a commonality which sparked the connection. Personality-wise they're both the sort of people to cultivate relationships including but not necessarily limited to close friends. We've seen it numerous times with Kasumi (Kenji, Takeshi, Sakura, Nanako) and Suiren has kept in touch not only with Kasumi but also I'a. Also, Kasumi's pretty proud of that damn lure so it's unsurprising that she'd give it to someone she considered a friend who also happens to fish.

At least Misty usually spent a lot of time with the other characters she kept in contact with. I just didn't get the impression that she and Lana hit it off that much that fast. Part of that is probably due to how the episodes featuring Misty and Brock were more about re-introducing them to the anime and showcasing how they've progressed during their time away from the main cast. It would be hard to convey a strong connection with any of the new cast members, especially when the cast is so large now. I think that Brock and Kiawe have a bit more of a believable connection by comparison, but I think that's mainly due to how Kiawe would respect Brock after their battle.
 
She has one Water Pokemon and hasn't shown any interest in catching more. That's a big reason why I don't think her preference for Water Pokemon comes up all that often. She likes the ocean and all, but I don't think that the focus on Water Pokemon comes up that often by comparison. Whenever she talks about Water Pokemon as if she's an expert, it usually just makes me think "Oh yeah, I guess you like Water Pokemon." A visual water themed power up isn't going to make me think that she likes Water Pokemon either.​
Quality over quantity. Misty was a character introduced in season 1, which means that most of her Pokémon didn't get that much character. Goldeen didn't battle until the Orange Islands, Staryu was Misty's go-to battler and not really anything else, Starmie didn't get much time to shine, and so on. Lana may have only one Water type, but it's sympathetic and well developed. Also, I'd think the fact that her Eevee loves the sea makes it a fitting catch for her.

And Pokémon are not the only thing that prove Lana's love for water. @ii kanji already listed pretty much everything I'd say about that, so I won't start repeating those points.
 
Quality over quantity. Misty was a character introduced in season 1, which means that most of her Pokémon didn't get that much character. Goldeen didn't battle until the Orange Islands, Staryu was Misty's go-to battler and not really anything else, Starmie didn't get much time to shine, and so on. Lana may have only one Water type, but it's sympathetic and well developed. Also, I'd think the fact that her Eevee loves the sea makes it a fitting catch for her.

I love the Popplio line, but I wouldn't call Lana's soon to be Primarina well developed or sympathetic. The most sympathetic thing about it was how Lana caught it, but I think that might be a stretch considering Popplio didn't show any long lasting effects of being bullied by those Team Skull grunts. Maybe it will feel more like that once the dub gets to more of its focused episodes, but I don't really get that impression now. I love seeing Popplio in the anime and I'm super relieved that they did not make it the Oshawott/Chespin of SM, but it doesn't stand out that much to me compared to the other Pokemon in the cast. I'm not sure if it would really stand out as much as it does if Popplio wasn't one of my favorite starter Pokemon. It's cute, I like seeing it bond with Eevee and the training to use its Z-Move was pretty neat, but that's about it.

As for Misty's Pokemon, they were certainly pretty forgettable, especially her season one Pokemon. Only Psyduck, Togepi and maybe Staryu stood out from that bunch. I also didn't mean to imply that I don't think Eevee was a good choice for Lana. I already mentioned that I think that the backlash to that capture was a bit harsh and the entire episode was building up to Lana capturing it anyway. My point wasn't about comparing their teams exactly. I was talking more about how Lana doesn't really bring up Water Pokemon that often, despite loving the ocean herself. Whenever it has come up, it just feels like an afterthought or a forced way to make her look knowledgeable about Water types despite not really showing any interest in capturing more Pokemon.

FinnishPokéFan92 said:
And Pokémon are not the only thing that prove Lana's love for water. @ii kanji already listed pretty much everything I'd say about that, so I won't start repeating those points.

I'm not sure if I'm being clear. I didn't say that I don't think that Lana loves the water or I find that aspect of her character forced. What feels forced to me is that she the notion that she loves Water Pokemon despite not showing any interest in catching more of them and that would be enough for her to connect with Misty. I'm not a big fan of Misty either, but at least she showed an interest in all Water types more often. Granted, that also came with the problem of just talking about her goal more so than actually doing anything about it, but at least it wasn't something that came up once in a blue moon for her and she wanted to capture more than one Pokemon. For a more recent example, Kiawe only has two Fire type Pokemon, three if we count his Charizard, but his desire to become a strong Fire type Pokemon trainer doesn't feel forced. Since he actually works with his Pokemon frequently, even if it's just practice battles with Ash, it makes the times where he does proclaim his goal more believable instead of an afterthought.

Now that I think about it, that might be the root of this problem for me. Unless it's changed recently, Lana's goal is to travel the ocean floor with Popplio's bubble. There's not much to really do with that beyond strengthen Popplio's bubbles, so there's not much for Lana to really do in terms of making progress with her goal and capturing other Pokemon wouldn't really help with that goal. That might be part of the reason why the notion that Lana loves Water Pokemon feels just a tad too forced for my tastes in retrospect. This is also one reason why I still think Kiawe is one of the more interesting classmates. His goal involves his Pokemon directly, capturing more Pokemon would be helpful for him and he actively works towards his goal. He doesn't get a lot of focus and most of the work towards his goal seems to be primarily practice battles with Ash, but I'd say that it still counts for something.
 
Talking about Misty's Pokémon reminded me of a good point that the anime reviewer Suede has made in his original series episode reviews: why is Starmie, a fully evolved Psychic Pokémon, treated like a punching bag? Seriously, that thing was a monster in the games, even back in the Generation I era, but in the anime, I don't think we've ever seen a Starmie, Misty's or anyone else's, win a single battle. This thing is supposed to be Misty's ace, and the anime treats it almost to the level of a joke. And to add insult to the injury, it's Misty's Staryu, Starmie's pre-evolution, that gets the spotlight as Misty's main battler! Why?! Did the anime writers have some kind of thing against Starmie, or didn't they just notice how much they made it lose?

Starmie is not my favorite Pokémon or anything, I just feel that this treatment to such a strong Pokémon is unfair.
 
At least Misty usually spent a lot of time with the other characters she kept in contact with. I just didn't get the impression that she and Lana hit it off that much that fast. Part of that is probably due to how the episodes featuring Misty and Brock were more about re-introducing them to the anime and showcasing how they've progressed during their time away from the main cast. It would be hard to convey a strong connection with any of the new cast members, especially when the cast is so large now. I think that Brock and Kiawe have a bit more of a believable connection by comparison, but I think that's mainly due to how Kiawe would respect Brock after their battle.
I don't think Kasumi interacted that much on-screen with either Sakura or Nanako prior to their Hoso appearances. I also don't see why Suiren would respect Kasumi any less than Kaki would respect Takeshi. What she loses in not having a full-scale 1:1 match is replaced by their joint special interest. Speaking of which...
I'm not sure if I'm being clear. I didn't say that I don't think that Lana loves the water or I find that aspect of her character forced. What feels forced to me is that she the notion that she loves Water Pokemon despite not showing any interest in catching more of them and that would be enough for her to connect with Misty.
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For a more recent example, Kiawe only has two Fire type Pokemon, three if we count his Charizard, but his desire to become a strong Fire type Pokemon trainer doesn't feel forced. Since he actually works with his Pokemon frequently, even if it's just practice battles with Ash, it makes the times where he does proclaim his goal more believable instead of an afterthought.
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Now that I think about it, that might be the root of this problem for me. Unless it's changed recently, Lana's goal is to travel the ocean floor with Popplio's bubble. There's not much to really do with that beyond strengthen Popplio's bubbles, so there's not much for Lana to really do in terms of making progress with her goal and capturing other Pokemon wouldn't really help with that goal.
This is the crux of it really - I don't think Suiren is all that interested in water-type Pokemon, any more than she is in the sea in general. In fact, SM in general is a little Pokemon-light, aside from Kaki and Satoshi (obvs), no one is that interested in training or battling Pokemon. So yeah, agreed, Suiren isn't too invested in becoming a water Pokemon trainer.

HOWEVER, she regardless has a huge affinity for water as explored before, and this is more where her common interest with Kasumi lies. Why do they both need to like the Pokemon aspect of water to bond? Why can't water itself be the object of their shared love?
 
Talking about Misty's Pokémon reminded me of a good point that the anime reviewer Suede has made in his original series episode reviews: why is Starmie, a fully evolved Psychic Pokémon, treated like a punching bag? Seriously, that thing was a monster in the games, even back in the Generation I era, but in the anime, I don't think we've ever seen a Starmie, Misty's or anyone else's, win a single battle. This thing is supposed to be Misty's ace, and the anime treats it almost to the level of a joke. And to add insult to the injury, it's Misty's Staryu, Starmie's pre-evolution, that gets the spotlight as Misty's main battler! Why?! Did the anime writers have some kind of thing against Starmie, or didn't they just notice how much they made it lose?

Starmie is not my favorite Pokémon or anything, I just feel that this treatment to such a strong Pokémon is unfair.
That's a pretty fair question. Specially considering how it was humiliated by Giselle's Graveler, a Pokémon that has a x4 weakness to one of Starmie's types.
 
I think Suiren is more interested in fishing pokemon (and then releasing them), instead of catching and training water types. Her catching of Ashimari was kind of an accident, and her second pokemon isn't even a water type. She might like Kasumi for her abilities fishing and lure making.
 
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Talking about Misty's Pokémon reminded me of a good point that the anime reviewer Suede has made in his original series episode reviews: why is Starmie, a fully evolved Psychic Pokémon, treated like a punching bag? Seriously, that thing was a monster in the games, even back in the Generation I era, but in the anime, I don't think we've ever seen a Starmie, Misty's or anyone else's, win a single battle. This thing is supposed to be Misty's ace, and the anime treats it almost to the level of a joke. And to add insult to the injury, it's Misty's Staryu, Starmie's pre-evolution, that gets the spotlight as Misty's main battler! Why?! Did the anime writers have some kind of thing against Starmie, or didn't they just notice how much they made it lose?

Starmie is not my favorite Pokémon or anything, I just feel that this treatment to such a strong Pokémon is unfair.
I still can't believe it and Horsea was left at the Cerulean Gym at the end of The Misty Mermaid. Ouch...

On the topic of the episode, after watching Suede's review I have to question this: Why did that random Seel that only appeared one episode prior back in EP007 just evolve while poor Horsea never got a chance to even develop a little in the episode and stay in Misty's party? It was shown to have at least some level of courage being able to even speak up to a GIANT Tenatcruel that was destroying a city (even if it got swatted away like a fly in the process), and cunning enough to make an ink trail for everyone to follow when it and other mon were captured by the TRio in the Eevee Brothers episode. It's not much, but I think it would've been cool if from that point forward it climbed up the development ladder, and at least in the end became a Seadra if not a fully evolved Kingdra before Misty's big goodbye at end of Johto. Misty didn't get her Golduck, they could've gave us a Seadra at least.
 
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Lana may have only one Water type, but it's sympathetic and well developed.
Are we talking about the same Pokémon which will evolve by doing literally nothing the whole time it has been in its second evolutionary line?
 
I don't think Kasumi interacted that much on-screen with either Sakura or Nanako prior to their Hoso appearances. I also don't see why Suiren would respect Kasumi any less than Kaki would respect Takeshi. What she loses in not having a full-scale 1:1 match is replaced by their joint special interest. Speaking of which...

Misty pretty much instantly connected with Sakura and since they could relate to each other with being the youngest in their families, they had something more personal to connect with. Since they hit it off so well, the idea that they would keep in touch even with only seeing each other a couple of times was believable. I forgot who Nanako is, so that is a good example. I'm not saying that Lana shouldn't respect Misty or anything like that. I just find Kiawe respecting Brock to be a bit more believable, or perhaps more accurately has more substance behind it, because they actually battled each other.

ii kanji said:
This is the crux of it really - I don't think Suiren is all that interested in water-type Pokemon, any more than she is in the sea in general. In fact, SM in general is a little Pokemon-light, aside from Kaki and Satoshi (obvs), no one is that interested in training or battling Pokemon. So yeah, agreed, Suiren isn't too invested in becoming a water Pokemon trainer.

That's basically what I was trying to say. Lana loves the ocean, but isn't really into Water Pokemon, which is why the times where she suddenly shows interest in them kind of jarring and forced. The fact that no one aside from Ash and Kiawe are interested in training or battling Pokemon is definitely a big issue as to why I find most of the SM not too compelling. Most of them are pretty likable, but there are only a couple of them that actively seem interesting to me.

ii kanji said:
HOWEVER, she regardless has a huge affinity for water as explored before, and this is more where her common interest with Kasumi lies. Why do they both need to like the Pokemon aspect of water to bond? Why can't water itself be the object of their shared love?

Because they both love the ocean for different reasons. Misty is more focus on Pokemon than Lana is by comparison and I think that is a key difference. There is still some common interest with the ocean, but it just feels a bit too surface level for my tastes or just lacks a more personal touch that would make their instant connection more believable.
 
If Jame's Mareanie and Jessie's Mimikyu don't appear in the next region, I hope to go they get a proper send off. Mime Jr., Inkay, Gourgeist, Seviper, Yanmega..they got nothing and were just left at the Rocket HQ. Seviper and Mime Jr. especially needed something, they had been on the show since Hoenn. But of course, can't let the TRio have full teams, they might pose more of a threat,
 
2. I don't think Kasumi and Suiren keeping in touch is just because they're both water-type specialists. If anything I think that's almost coincidental, just a commonality which sparked the connection. Personality-wise they're both the sort of people to cultivate relationships including but not necessarily limited to close friends. We've seen it numerous times with Kasumi (Kenji, Takeshi, Sakura, Nanako) and Suiren has kept in touch not only with Kasumi but also I'a. Also, Kasumi's pretty proud of that damn lure so it's unsurprising that she'd give it to someone she considered a friend who also happens to fish.
I can't speak for everyone, but, for me at least, when it comes to Misty's friendship with Lana, it doesn't feel like the two of them have had enough interactions for them to become all buddy-buddy. With the examples that you give, she spent more time with those characters (she travelled two entire regions with Brock and one with Tracy, she spent a lot of time in EP183 with Sakura (not to mention that the two of them had something in common that helped them bond: the fact that they were both the youngest sisters in a group of dancers who don't consider them to be part of said group) and with Casey... well, I'll give you that they barely interacted, but, at the same time, it wasn't stated that they've befriended one another or that they would be keeping in contact (like it was with Lana and Sakura)), so, naturally, she had more time to connect with them and become friends with them .

In contrast, the only interactions Misty had with Lana were in a 30 second-ish scene of them swimming in a lake to find Lana's missing Popplio and them having an almost 2 minutes (at best) "gym battle" (and I use that term very loosely). Maybe if they would've had more episodes of the Alola, Kanto arc (instead of making it a 2-parters) or if they would've spent less time on the OG pandering and more time on the classmates interacting with the original cast, then maybe it would've been more believable that Lana bonded with Misty. But as it stands, I have a hard time accepting that, after 30 seconds of swimming together and them having an unexciting, banal Multi Battle (even by SM's standards), Misty was impressed enough by Lana's... something, that she decided to not only keep in contact with her, but to also give her one of her signature special lures.

I also find it weird for Lana to keep in touch with Misty, since (again) she barely interacted with her and (if I remember correctly) she wasn't shown to be interested in/impressed by Misty and/or her abilities/skills/in-sight/experience. It made more sense for her to keep in contact with Ida, since she's the person that helped Lana master her Z-move, the person that trained her, a person that she respects to the point that she addresses her as "Master".
 
In terms of Misty and Lana bond and friendship in SM series i cant say its forced.

In fact this two girls and trainers were established to have several things in common and it doesn't stop just on love for water pokemon. Speaking of which I would say Lana love for this specie mirrors Misty's. With both girls being highly protective of them and can get highly upset if they re misused. We can see that in various examples such as in Misty case in OS when Porta Vista polute ocean causing whole attack of Tentacruel incident or when she expressed why they mean so much to her to fire trainer Egan for example later down the road. Respectively in SM series Lana showed same behavior on several occasions being upset over cruelty performed on water pokemon being ready to do anything to protect them, especially hers such as for example in "Haunted House for Everyone!".

They both are highly passionate and share deep love for oceans and water in general.
Lana just like Misty has siblings, in Lana case we witness situation where Lana has role of oldest sister while Misty opposite of being youngest one. But as we get to see both in original and SM series both of this girls have issues with their siblings getting on their nerves. Granted not in same amount in Lana case but regardless connection is there.

Lana just like Misty adores fishing with both girls being good at it, and while Lana one could say don't have interest in catching just water pokemon. As we saw with addition of Eevee to her team, Misty as well showed ambition in various other pokemon too, on several occasions Eveee herself despite her main interest being water type.
However Lana main interest are still without doubt water creatures:
possession of ring waterium Z, her ace being water pokemon, even non water specie like Eevee still being heavily connected to water theme(using surf), coming from family connected to water related activities and her deep interest for anything related to water(which is something Misty is known for as well) speaks enough for itself.


Needless to say it feels like SM saga and Lana adventures draw some type of parallel to OS and Misty, whether that may be on purpose or just pure coincidence, One of them would be reappearance of mystic water pendant(which increases water pokemon strength) in Alola which was last seen in Johto during Whirl Cup tournament.

All of this suggests writers from start knew what they wanted to make out of Misty and Lana meeting preparing ground for their eventual bonding and forming which I would say is at this point pretty strong friendship. Lana sees in Misty someone to look up to being highly respective of her as person and for her water trainer abilities. Just like Misty sees in Lana herself appreciating to find someone who understands marine life and ocean related things in same manner as she does.
Both girls clicked of already during visit to Kanto in what i would consider natural manner. Common interest is what drawn them to each other, but it was just aiding hand in allowing both girls to better know themselves and explore potential of future relationship. Enjoying spending time together as it was revealed when searching for Popplio swimming together in lake, battling TR or just enjoying spending time together during second visit of Misty and Brock this time in Akola in various activities like surfing on Mantine, looking over jewelry made from Crsola horns, in their pokemon playing with each other, or should I say Psyduck attempt to participate.

One of more prominent moments was when both girls just sit together observing and admiring ocean understanding each other.

Lana and Misty communicating through letters keeping in touch is because of various mentioned things not surprising, with their friendship becoming serious and genuine. Opening door toward future build up of those two girls relationship, which gained new dimension to itself considering Misty gave Lana one of her special lures. Something she doesn't give to everyone reflecting respect and actual care from Misty toward Lana.

Its actually looking back in retrospective interesting and unique to see older and newer girl form connection which exceeds beyond just common interest sharing in personality characteristics and way they treat relationships around themselves more than it meets the eye. With both meeting someone who shares similar love and interest for what we can safely say is life calling(both in Lana and Misty case)being extra bonus adding more weight and significance to whole thing.

Not all friendships develop in same way or are same. Some people draw themselves to each other naturally, others take time to form relationship. Some hang out extensively together, while others don't doing this every so often. And often those who hang out together less can have stronger and deeper friendship than those who are doing it frequently.

Because essence of the matter lies in quality of the time people spend together, rather than quantity. And based on examples, development of situation, Lana and Misty characterization and way their interest to each other has been portrayed I would say how writers managed to do believable connection between them-

Ill conquer how those moments and interactions between Misty and Lana were short and limited time wise. But foundations were built for eventual cultivation and growth of friendship which started pretty strong and promising.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if once SM finishes there is made special where Lana visits Misty at cerulean having battle or being involved in some other water related adventure together. Can't say I would object toward such idea personally.

Talking about Misty's Pokémon reminded me of a good point that the anime reviewer Suede has made in his original series episode reviews: why is Starmie, a fully evolved Psychic Pokémon, treated like a punching bag? Seriously, that thing was a monster in the games, even back in the Generation I era, but in the anime, I don't think we've ever seen a Starmie, Misty's or anyone else's, win a single battle.

Misty Starmie did defeat Joe Weepinbell in "School of Hard Knocks!" prior to losing to Giselle Graveler.. It also weakened and was about to defeat Odish before at that time Ash's future Bulbasaur intervened. That still isn't saying much, but technically Starmie was shown to win few battles, including vs TR if it counts.

However in general yes Starmie as specie was given royally bad treatment and not recognition and respect it deserves due to its amazing battling abilities and reputation(especially in games). I would like to see that changed in future and if were lucky see again Misty Starmie personally more in action, because I feel that pokemon was never given chance to show its full strength and potential. Potential to be after Gyarados possibly her strongest pokemon.
 
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