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Mafia ME Movies Mafia: Endgame: Winners are You! 15/9/17
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@MegaPod I don't want Mido lynched for simply claiming miller and having a relatively town presence. I wouldn't mind a miller being lynched later on principle, if we can afford the spare lynch, but it's low priority as far as I'm concerned.
When did you tell scum what your role was and when did they tell you that they'd kill you tonight?
If there isn't a clear answer to the above, then get your head out of your butt and quit acting like this.
We're pushing you because we want you to spend your time attacking other people, not defending yourself. Your tunnelvision for Mido has been ok at best but in all honesty, I can't think of you even responding to, nonetheless attempting to read, more than half of the players on the playerlist. You certainly are vocal enough to be doing so.
In the case above, jack got a pass because there's more to do than sit around and wait for jack to respond to a question from D2, in which he might not even have answered until D4 given his activity. What use is sitting on questions? You're around, and you're acting jumpy, so you're worth prodding simultaneously.
Let me clarify something for you though.
ASKING QUESTIONS DOES NOT MEAN YOU SCUMREAD SOMEBODY. ASKING QUESTIONS IS HOW YOU DETERMINE WHO YOU SCUMREAD AND WHO YOU TOWNREAD. Out of all your questions to Midorikawa, I can say with a fact that until D2 ended, I had absolutely no idea if you actually ever even had a single thought on Mido's alignment, outside of you flat out saying it but never really backing up why. It'd be like if I asked you "What did you eat for breakfast" doesn't mean I'm scumreading you for possibly eating eggs for breakfast. It sounds silly, yes? Impossible to find substance in? So does your "case" on Mido, as requoted in your latest #274. Use this as a learning experience if nothing else. You need to take player's responses, or lack of responses, make them stupidly obvious for every player in the game to see and/or comment on, and then you have the makings of a scumread.
Thank you for the case on Mido.
Inactivity sucks and I hate it but it does not automatically mean that a player is scum. Inactivity for scumtells in early game is more along the lines of "Gee, [Player 1] posted one RVS vote about 3 hours into D1, and [Player 2] accused somebody of being scum for some random reason 8 hours into D1, but both players haven't been around in 70 hours to say literally anything else, while [Player 3] hasn't posted at all. Which one do you think is the most likely to be scum in this pile? It's difficult because they all have textbook reasons to qualify. Player 3 has exactly 0 clues to work with though. Pick one and explain why, then stick to it until you're given reason to look elsewhere. That's the basis of logic used on Inactivity for early game.
When did you tell scum what your role was and when did they tell you that they'd kill you tonight?
If there isn't a clear answer to the above, then get your head out of your butt and quit acting like this.
We're pushing you because we want you to spend your time attacking other people, not defending yourself. Your tunnelvision for Mido has been ok at best but in all honesty, I can't think of you even responding to, nonetheless attempting to read, more than half of the players on the playerlist. You certainly are vocal enough to be doing so.
In the case above, jack got a pass because there's more to do than sit around and wait for jack to respond to a question from D2, in which he might not even have answered until D4 given his activity. What use is sitting on questions? You're around, and you're acting jumpy, so you're worth prodding simultaneously.
Let me clarify something for you though.
ASKING QUESTIONS DOES NOT MEAN YOU SCUMREAD SOMEBODY. ASKING QUESTIONS IS HOW YOU DETERMINE WHO YOU SCUMREAD AND WHO YOU TOWNREAD. Out of all your questions to Midorikawa, I can say with a fact that until D2 ended, I had absolutely no idea if you actually ever even had a single thought on Mido's alignment, outside of you flat out saying it but never really backing up why. It'd be like if I asked you "What did you eat for breakfast" doesn't mean I'm scumreading you for possibly eating eggs for breakfast. It sounds silly, yes? Impossible to find substance in? So does your "case" on Mido, as requoted in your latest #274. Use this as a learning experience if nothing else. You need to take player's responses, or lack of responses, make them stupidly obvious for every player in the game to see and/or comment on, and then you have the makings of a scumread.
Thank you for the case on Mido.
Inactivity sucks and I hate it but it does not automatically mean that a player is scum. Inactivity for scumtells in early game is more along the lines of "Gee, [Player 1] posted one RVS vote about 3 hours into D1, and [Player 2] accused somebody of being scum for some random reason 8 hours into D1, but both players haven't been around in 70 hours to say literally anything else, while [Player 3] hasn't posted at all. Which one do you think is the most likely to be scum in this pile? It's difficult because they all have textbook reasons to qualify. Player 3 has exactly 0 clues to work with though. Pick one and explain why, then stick to it until you're given reason to look elsewhere. That's the basis of logic used on Inactivity for early game.
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Another thing. I steeped the case in you because I liked the case on you. I haven't backed off because you haven't convinced me the case is wrong. I also have been nonstop busy for the past few days so I can't look through the thread currently and analyze everyone myself.
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Survivor wins when another primary factions wins. They can just as easily scumside if it secures their win, with their vote
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Like in Artemis mafia
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I'm here guys, I'll read through tonight.
Day 3: Evildoers R' Us
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Day 3: Evildoers R' Us
Back at Maniacal Engineer's mansion, things were not progressing as they should have been. The Section Head had managed to gather most of his closest allies together for a war conference, even without communications. This is because the majority of them had been at Zexy's wedding, and so were immediately available to receive ME's summons.
Despite this, however, little skirmishes broke out among the group. A few accusations flew back and forth in the war room.
"I'm telling you, one of us had to have had something to do with this communication disruption," Elieson was saying, "the security system is too tight for it to have been an outside job."
"Not to mention the body in the trunk," chimed in returnofMCH, "that took a lot of inside knowledge to pull off."
A few angry voices echoed these sentiments.
"This bickering is pointless," said Enzap, banging his fist on the table, "we wouldn't be here if Maniacal Engineer didn't trust us, right? So therefore none of us could have done it."
A few murmurs seemed to half heartedly agree with the Admin's statement.
"Now, what we need to focus on first is getting communications back online," continued the former F&G Boss, "so let's deal with that, and we can work from there."
Everyone agreed to Enzap's reasonable statement, so they all departed to continue their tasks. Elieson lingered for a moment, looking thoughtful, before trailing after TheCapsFan.
The Admin sat for a moment after Elie's departure and had a quick chuckle to himself. This was almost too easy, but he had a job to do. An important threat remained, and, as long as that threat was not neutralized, his whole group was in danger.
Looking around to make sure nobody was watching, he walked over to the side entrance. As planned, his contact was waiting there, concealed from view in a bush.
"Fancy seeing you here," said the admin, letting the figure into the mansion, "especially since you're supposed to be somewhere else entirely right now."
"Yes, well, I can't stay long," said the contact, "so let's get this over with."
"Agreed," Enzap said, "your target is currently on the second floor, he's been working at one of the computers in the library."
"Anyone else there?" asked Enzap's ally.
"No," was the reply, "mostly everyone else is working in the generator room in the basement or the communications relay on the third floor."
"Perfect," said the figure, disappearing into the shadows.
On the second floor, Yours Truly was looking at ME's database of criminals, checking to see if any of them had been in the mansion recently. He looked up as the library door opened.
"Oh," he said, "it's you."
The figure advanced quickly and killed Yours Truly.
Moments later, the same figure rejoined Enzap by the back entrance, true to the arrangement, the Admin had clean clothes prepared for the figure.
"Mission complete," said the figure, taking the clothes and changing quickly.
"Then return to where you are supposed to be," ordered the former F&G Boss, "before too many questions are asked."
The figure silently went out into the night, and disappeared in the fog.
Meanwhile trouble was brewing in the generator room. Elieson was on a war path, and he had a specific target in mind.
He cornered TheCapsFan as the moderator was attempting to bring in some supplies to fix the broken generator.
"You've been acting shiftily this whole time," said the hotheaded user, "and I don't care what Enzap says, somebody in this mansion is a traitor. It fits that it would be you, since you're a moderator. ME would trust you more than he would trust the rest of us."
"Elie, be reasonable," said Caps, "we were both Elementar's students. What would he say if he saw us fighting?"
"Elementar would be ashamed if he saw how you had betrayed he friends and your other fellow students," shouted Elieson, beyond seeing reason.
Despite Caps's protests, Elieson pulled out a laser and fired. The moderator crumpled on the ground, killed by the point blank laser blast.
Moments later, rationality resurfaced, and Elieson dropped his weapon in shock.
"What have I done?!" he asked, haunted by his actions.
IT IS NOW DAY 3 YOU MAY BEGIN VOTING. Phase Ends in 48 hours at 9:00pm 6/9/17.
Back at Maniacal Engineer's mansion, things were not progressing as they should have been. The Section Head had managed to gather most of his closest allies together for a war conference, even without communications. This is because the majority of them had been at Zexy's wedding, and so were immediately available to receive ME's summons.
Despite this, however, little skirmishes broke out among the group. A few accusations flew back and forth in the war room.
"I'm telling you, one of us had to have had something to do with this communication disruption," Elieson was saying, "the security system is too tight for it to have been an outside job."
"Not to mention the body in the trunk," chimed in returnofMCH, "that took a lot of inside knowledge to pull off."
A few angry voices echoed these sentiments.
"This bickering is pointless," said Enzap, banging his fist on the table, "we wouldn't be here if Maniacal Engineer didn't trust us, right? So therefore none of us could have done it."
A few murmurs seemed to half heartedly agree with the Admin's statement.
"Now, what we need to focus on first is getting communications back online," continued the former F&G Boss, "so let's deal with that, and we can work from there."
Everyone agreed to Enzap's reasonable statement, so they all departed to continue their tasks. Elieson lingered for a moment, looking thoughtful, before trailing after TheCapsFan.
The Admin sat for a moment after Elie's departure and had a quick chuckle to himself. This was almost too easy, but he had a job to do. An important threat remained, and, as long as that threat was not neutralized, his whole group was in danger.
Looking around to make sure nobody was watching, he walked over to the side entrance. As planned, his contact was waiting there, concealed from view in a bush.
"Fancy seeing you here," said the admin, letting the figure into the mansion, "especially since you're supposed to be somewhere else entirely right now."
"Yes, well, I can't stay long," said the contact, "so let's get this over with."
"Agreed," Enzap said, "your target is currently on the second floor, he's been working at one of the computers in the library."
"Anyone else there?" asked Enzap's ally.
"No," was the reply, "mostly everyone else is working in the generator room in the basement or the communications relay on the third floor."
"Perfect," said the figure, disappearing into the shadows.
On the second floor, Yours Truly was looking at ME's database of criminals, checking to see if any of them had been in the mansion recently. He looked up as the library door opened.
"Oh," he said, "it's you."
The figure advanced quickly and killed Yours Truly.
In this installment of the ME movies Elieson you are acting as Yours Truly
ME's longtime rival and friend of sorts, a lazy but very good at his job Cop. You have been known to make typos like asplode or compuper quite a bit due to your laziness, but nonetheless you are one of the the best interrogators around.
Once a night, you may check someones alignment by PMing the hosts with the words Check: (Player). This will tell you who they are aligned with and may or may not put them in the clear.
You are allied with ME and his Ragtag Bunch of Misfits, you win when all opposing factions are dead and their mooks are left with no one to follow.
ME's longtime rival and friend of sorts, a lazy but very good at his job Cop. You have been known to make typos like asplode or compuper quite a bit due to your laziness, but nonetheless you are one of the the best interrogators around.
Once a night, you may check someones alignment by PMing the hosts with the words Check: (Player). This will tell you who they are aligned with and may or may not put them in the clear.
You are allied with ME and his Ragtag Bunch of Misfits, you win when all opposing factions are dead and their mooks are left with no one to follow.
"Mission complete," said the figure, taking the clothes and changing quickly.
"Then return to where you are supposed to be," ordered the former F&G Boss, "before too many questions are asked."
The figure silently went out into the night, and disappeared in the fog.
Meanwhile trouble was brewing in the generator room. Elieson was on a war path, and he had a specific target in mind.
He cornered TheCapsFan as the moderator was attempting to bring in some supplies to fix the broken generator.
"You've been acting shiftily this whole time," said the hotheaded user, "and I don't care what Enzap says, somebody in this mansion is a traitor. It fits that it would be you, since you're a moderator. ME would trust you more than he would trust the rest of us."
"Elie, be reasonable," said Caps, "we were both Elementar's students. What would he say if he saw us fighting?"
"Elementar would be ashamed if he saw how you had betrayed he friends and your other fellow students," shouted Elieson, beyond seeing reason.
Despite Caps's protests, Elieson pulled out a laser and fired. The moderator crumpled on the ground, killed by the point blank laser blast.
In this installment of the ME movies Zachie you are acting as TheCapsFan
A trained spy, you can well, spy on the mafia to uncover secrets. but this is limited under the spy code. You trained under Elementar alongside Elieson and returnofMCH. But you can't say that thanks to the rules of the game
Once a night you can PM the hosts with the words "Night x: Spy" and you will see the three most recent discord mafia posts, but any and all players/roles who aren't dead (minus one that RNG will decide) will be seen as [REDACTED] like in a real spy film.
You are allied with ME and his Ragtag Bunch of Misfits, you win when all opposing factions are dead and their mooks are left with no one to follow.
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A trained spy, you can well, spy on the mafia to uncover secrets. but this is limited under the spy code. You trained under Elementar alongside Elieson and returnofMCH. But you can't say that thanks to the rules of the game
Once a night you can PM the hosts with the words "Night x: Spy" and you will see the three most recent discord mafia posts, but any and all players/roles who aren't dead (minus one that RNG will decide) will be seen as [REDACTED] like in a real spy film.
You are allied with ME and his Ragtag Bunch of Misfits, you win when all opposing factions are dead and their mooks are left with no one to follow.
"What have I done?!" he asked, haunted by his actions.
IT IS NOW DAY 3 YOU MAY BEGIN VOTING. Phase Ends in 48 hours at 9:00pm 6/9/17.
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Welp. Good luck? I wasn't enjoying this game anyway.
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Apologies for the lack of flavor for the past two updates. It will be added in shortly, but I have dedicated myself to Chaos today, since I am eager to get that game rolling, and it is waiting on me.
I did still have somewhat limited energy as I recover from my illness, but the updates will hopefully be made later tonight.
I did still have somewhat limited energy as I recover from my illness, but the updates will hopefully be made later tonight.
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Damn. I'll look back on Elieson's posts between D2 start and now to see who he might have checked as Town. It seems to me he didn't get a scum check as he only voted Zachie, according to him anyways.
Damn. I'll look back on Elieson's posts between D2 start and now to see who he might have checked as Town. It seems to me he didn't get a scum check as he only voted Zachie, according to him anyways.
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1. @TheCapsFan
2. @MegaPod
3. @Arata Kiyoshi Miku
4. @CheffOfGames
5. @Elementar
6. @Pika_pika42
8. @Midorikawa
9. @Feenie
10. @Elieson
12. @Zachie
14. @Alex Kaz
15. @AussieEevee
Flavor has been added to the last two updates, as well as a clarification about when D3 ends. I will now update the title and OP.
2. @MegaPod
3. @Arata Kiyoshi Miku
4. @CheffOfGames
5. @Elementar
6. @Pika_pika42
8. @Midorikawa
9. @Feenie
10. @Elieson
12. @Zachie
14. @Alex Kaz
15. @AussieEevee
Flavor has been added to the last two updates, as well as a clarification about when D3 ends. I will now update the title and OP.
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Read through page 7. Dozing off, thoughts tomorrow.
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Well, I couldn't get a read on who Elieson might have Town checked, so for now, I will...
Vote: AussieEevee
I keep feeling off about him, and after reading back, he seems pretty defensive, especially with this line:
Vote: AussieEevee
I keep feeling off about him, and after reading back, he seems pretty defensive, especially with this line:
I don't like it
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