Neverending Romance -- The Shipping List Revival

[Insanish Danish]

Wow, all these years and somehow I never knew that Perfumeshipping was also used for Brock/Erika. I've only ever seen it used for Erika/Misty.

 

[asiryn]

Wow, all these years and somehow I never knew that Perfumeshipping was also used for Brock/Erika. I've only ever seen it used for Erika/Misty.

it seems like it belongs in that category of anime indigo league ships from back in the day before ship naming was the more streamlined process that it is today, as there's a bunch of ships from that time that are recorded in the official list as being doubled up. another example i can think of is how "brocketshipping" is listed as being the name of both brock/james and brock/jessie. i've never seen perfumeshipping being used anywhere, which is why i wasn't sure if it was associated with one of its designated pairings over the other. from your account, it seems as if it is, and as i stated previously, if perfumeshipping is most associated w/ erika/misty, i'd be fine w/ coming up with a new name for brock/erika. obvs, i know that the official list is primarily for archival purposes, and that it's typically undesirable for a ship to have multiple names, but it just seems to me that for ships that are in this predicament, it'd only be for the better for them to have a unique ship name.

(also, i kinda wish there could be some kind of notations on the names that aren't really in use to indicate that its presence on the list is more for archival purposes, as it can get quite confusing at times to figure out which is the 'correct' name that you're supposed to be using. or, say, that in the cases w/ a name being used for multiple ships, for there to be an indication as to which ship is actually associated w/ the name more. but that's possibly a different conversation for another time.)

 

[Insanish Danish]

it seems like it belongs in that category of anime indigo league ships from back in the day before ship naming was the more streamlined process that it is today, as there's a bunch of ships from that time that are recorded in the official list as being doubled up. another example i can think of is how "brocketshipping" is listed as being the name of both brock/james and brock/jessie. i've never seen perfumeshipping being used anywhere, which is why i wasn't sure if it was associated with one of its designated pairings over the other. from your account, it seems as if it is, and as i stated previously, if perfumeshipping is most associated w/ erika/misty, i'd be fine w/ coming up with a new name for brock/erika. obvs, i know that the official list is primarily for archival purposes, and that it's typically undesirable for a ship to have multiple names, but it just seems to me that for ships that are in this predicament, it'd only be for the better for them to have a unique ship name.

Yeah tbf I haven't seen the name used that often to begin with; I only remember seeing it a few times like 15+ years ago. Definitely in agreement that there should be unique names in use, not just for both variations of Perfumeshipping but in general.

Funny you bring up Brock/James because that one actually has four names on the list - Brocket, Jim, Koi and Stuart. But like you said, the process is more streamlined now so things like the same ship being named four times (or the same name going to multiple ships) don't happen anymore.

 

[Herbizarre]

DragonBroodShipping - Drayton & Iris

I don't know if this ship was named before, but here goes !

EDIT :

MoradoShipping - Red (game) & Nemona (Morado means "purple" in spanish, which is one of two results of combining red and blue)
NarcolepsyShipping - Erika & Fennel

 

[mastermind lissi]

Don’t know if they have a name yet but I saw someone on Tumblr using StudentCouncilShipping for nemona x amarys!

If there’s already a name for them or it’s being used for something else that’s fine, just letting you know this one exists ^^

 

[Teebs96]

Has a name for Eri x Ortega been decided on yet? If not I would like to nominate StarRodShipping as the name!

 

[Railgun]

Rather curious, but is there a ship name for Leon/Diantha? Just wondering.

 

[asiryn]

Rather curious, but is there a ship name for Leon/Diantha? Just wondering.

yes---it's ChampionExtraordinaireShipping

 

[Manqoba]

Post 100 update!

Spoiler: Accepted

_oddoSamaShipping - Chili & Sordward
AboveAverageShipping - Avery & Ilima
AceStyleShipping - Chaz (ORAS) & Vito Winstrate
AeropolisShipping - Falkner & Iono
AlbaricoqueShipping - Janine & Katy
AncientMesaShipping - Wulfric & Ryme
AngelJewelShipping - Diantha & Olivia
ArsenicPuddingShipping - Klara & Katy
ArtistryShipping - Atticus & Kiawe
AuroraVeilShipping - Shielbert & Melony
AvellanaShipping - Katy & Sabrina
AzaharShipping - Erika & Katy
BattlePassionShipping - Ash, Gladion & Kiawe
BeaconPortShipping - Volkner & Olivia
BiancaCityShipping - Grant & Bianca (BW)
BigBlueShipping - Marlon & Nessa
BoulangerieShipping - Katy & Viola
BoyGeniusShipping - Hyde & Sophocles
BurningBulwarkShipping - Chili & Shielbert
CableTunnelShipping - Roark & Lanette
CafeRacerShipping - Jack (Galar) & Grace (Kalos)
CafeteriaDateShipping - Drayton & Florian
CasinoPalaceShipping - Brandon & Dahlia
ChampionsBeltShipping - Eri & Maylene
ChasingDreamsShipping - Chase & Molly Hale
ChefairyShipping - Crispin & Ortega
ChronicallyOnlineShipping - Iono & Penny
CloudCarpetShipping - Grusha & Skyla
ColdSnapShipping - Grusha & Perrin
ColleagueShipping - Sonia & Sonia's Assistant
CompassionateMaidenShipping - Daisy Oak & Jasmine
CoolBoyShipping - Clyde & Gordie
CosmoTerminalShipping - Drayton & Amarys
CovertIdolShipping - Curtis, Nate & Yancy
CriminalityShipping - Chairman Rose, Giovanni & Nanu
CroneShipping - Agatha & Opal
CrunchyRollShipping - Brock & Katy
DeathWindShipping - Morty & Kahili
DentedShieldShipping - Cilan & Shielbert
Devil'sForestShipping - Brassius & Karen
DipplinShipping - Juliana & Kieran
DistortedWorldShipping - Cyrus & Phyco
DoubleSidedShipping - Allister & Kieran
DragonBroodShipping - Drayton & Iris
DragroseilleShipping - Drayton & Carmine
EmpyreanColonyShipping - Aaron & Kahili
EternalRoseShipping - Chairman Rose & Shielbert
EveningActShipping - Billy (Ranger) & Morgan
EveningBattleShipping - Wally & Evelyn (Battle Mansion)
FactorySettingsShipping - Noland & Brigette
FairyLaneShipping - Elaine (game) & Mina
FairyuuShipping - Drayton & Lacey
FestivalZoneShipping - Sophocles & Iono
FightingLegacyShipping - Gurkinn & Mustard
FingerHeartShipping - Amarys & Carmine
FireFieldShipping - Crispin & Flannery
FlanDeMangoShipping - Geeta & Katy
FlareTeachingShipping - Aliana & Éclairisse
FlorMaskShipping - Allister, Florian & Kieran
FoodTokenShipping - Cilan & Katy
FossilizedBugShipping - Aaron (elite) & Brock
FreedomDefenderShipping - Peonia & Sina
FrenchIdolShipping - Calem & Curtis
FuturoBookShipping - Professor Turo & Briar
GamblerShipping - Grimsley & Petrel
GlitteratiShipping - Billy (Glitterati) & O'Nare
GoldenAgeShipping - Agatha, Opal & Professor Magnolia
GothIdolShipping - Marnie & Yancy
GothRoyalPearlShipping - Caitlin, Dawn & Marley
GrasshopperPieShipping - Burgh & Katy
GraySkiesShipping - Amarys & Hugh
GreenPlantShipping - Noland & Viola
GroundFrostShipping - Wulfric & Bertha
GuérandeShipping - Grant & Katy
HealerTeacherShipping - Jacq x Miriam
HeartsongShipping - Kurt & Pryce
HoneymelonShipping - Honey (Galar) & Melony
HoneymoonDelightShipping - Professor Kukui, Delia & Professor Burnet
IcyRapShipping - Glacia & Ryme
IdolZoneShipping - Iono & Yancy
IronMatronShipping - Byron & Argenta
LeaveningShipping - Cilan & Drayton
LevaduraShipping - Hassel & Katy
LifeDewShipping - Queen Ilene & Lizabeth
LovelyKissShipping - Lacey & Whitney
LuckyWindsShipping - Aliquis & Ohara
MadrileñaShipping - Dendra & Katy
MagicPowerShipping - Will & Francesca
MaidenlyShipping - Daisy Oak, Erika & Jasmine
MantecadosShipping - Blaine & Katy
MetalFortShipping - Molayne & Olivia
MetallurgyShipping - Molayne, Professor Kukui & Professor Burnet
MissingTimeShipping - Grings Kodai & Volo
MistFlowShipping - Grusha & Candice
MoradoShipping - Red (game) & Nemona
MorningButlerShipping - Darach & Morgan
MuddyValleyShipping - Hapu & Pikala
MuteCityShipping - Red (game) & Iono
NaranjaAcademyShipping - Arven, Florian, Nemona & Penny
NarcolepsyShipping - Erika & Fennel
NightLassShipping - Nita & Vivi Winstrate
NoirBoutiqueShipping - Emma, Serena (XY) & Shauna (XY)
NovaPalShipping - Jacq & Briar
PasadaBookShipping - Briar & Professor Sada
PasteleraShipping - Katy & Misty
PeakGameShipping - Joshua & Ava
PeakToPeakShipping - Edgar Troy & Celestine
PhantomRoadShipping - Morty & Rika
PinkLaceShipping - Lacey & Ortega
PintoBeanShipping - Mohn & Salvatore
PortTownShipping - Lt. Surge & Tulip
PrettyGirlShipping - Carmine & Penny
PsychicSeanceShipping - Caitlin, Sabrina & Shauntal
PyramidAdventourShipping - Brandon & Peony
RedCanyonShipping - Kabu & Fantina
RestfulShipping - Professor Elm & Professor Neroli
RoseThornShipping - Chairman Rose & Sordward
RoyalAceShipping - Sordward & Tucker
RoyalAncestryShipping - Lysandre & Shielbert
RubySwirlShipping - Baron Alberto & Saguaro
RustedShieldShipping - Cress & Shielbert
RustedSwordShipping - Cress & Sordward
SalmorejoShipping - Brassius & Katy
SaltyShipping - Agatha & Tyme
SandOceanShipping - Gordie & Misty
SchwedlerShipping - Cosette & Mable
ScientificInnovationShipping - Briar & Oleana
SmoothSandShipping - Garret & Heath
SoftSmileShipping - Ash, Gladion & Hau
SourdoughShipping - Milo & Katy
SpacePlantShipping - Cilan & Amarys
SpiritTeaShipping - Ramos & Spenser (Frontier)
SpiritualityShipping - Anthea & Phoebe
SplatterPaintShipping - Bea & Mina
SpookyLaneShipping - Allister & Elaine (game)
StageLightsShipping - Candela & Lily (Kanto)
StarGemShipping - Lacey & Mela
StarkFarmShipping - Milo & Gardenia
StarRodShipping - Ortega & Eri
StudentCouncilShipping - Amarys & Nemona
SucreEnPoudreShipping - Katy & Valerie
SugarbugShipping - Aaron & Katy
SynobazzShipping - Wallace & Rika
TechnoKidShipping - Hyde & Amanita
TechPunkShipping - Cassius & Sidney
TenthZoneEastShipping - Crasher Wake & Olympia
TinyTitanShipping - Bonnie & Poppy
TorrijaShipping - Giovanni & Katy
TotemSpiritShipping - Hala & Samson Oak
TragonaCakeShipping - Blue (game) & Katy
TripleVolcanoShipping - Crispin, Flannery & Mela
TroveShipping - Buck & Bugsy
TrunkShipping - Cilan & Sordward
TundraStormShipping - Iono, Rika & Grusha
UmeboshiShipping - Koga & Katy
ViceGuitaristShipping - Giacomo & Ryuki
VinylShipping - Piers, Shielbert & Sonia
VolteadoShipping - Lt. Surge & Katy
WakameShipping - Kofu & Wattson
WhiteLandShipping - Cheren & Valerie
WitnessProtectionShipping - Giovanni & Shielbert
WizenedShipping - Agatha & Professor Magnolia

Spoiler: Rejected

JustNotRightShipping - Drayton & Lacey
OnTheDotShipping - Amarys & Carmine
RockStarShipping - Marnie & Penny
SpicySweetShipping - Crispin & Lacey

Spoiler: Notes

so far on social media (mostly tumblr) tealmaskshipping has been very widely adopted for florian & kieran. as far as i know no widely used ship name for kieran & juliana has been decided on yet but i've seen a couple of blogs on there start using the dipplinshipping name for them.

I'm deferring both of these names pending further review. It seems like there's quite a bit of online discourse regarding Florian x Kieran from what I'm seeing and I think it's best to let it sort itself out and become more settled.

These are both on purpose! If you look a bit back in this thread, you find this:



For more information, take a look at this post, under the 'lots of notes' spoiler section! Thank you for bringing this up, though!

I'm happy (though honestly a bit surprised) people actually read through all of these notes and remember this type of stuff from years ago. I'm glad some people are interested in this type of thing.

Great observations, thank you!

With seemingly no real-world usage for any of the conflicting names outside of their namers, EstrellarShipping and SecretSweetsShipping will remain because they were the first to file.

It seems like the Kendra names all originated from Shadechu. I'm not sure if it was a a localized name, a persistent typo, or something else, but you are correct, it looks like the character name is outright wrong. I anticipate all of these names (or at least the two in conflict) will be removed in the next update. I'd welcome any comments from Shadechu about it before then. I'll be honest, I saw the name so many times that I just assumed Kendra was a character I missed somewhere. Thanks again for pointing it out!

All of this has been handled, thank you again to asiryn for pointing it out!

was looking at the shipping list at large just now, and i've found what seems to be another discrepancy. i can't remember if i've ever brought it to someone else's attention before, but i figured i might as well go ahead in case i haven't, as even if i did, the discrepancy remains after the update.

i found these two entries:

• FairyBlossomShipping -- Magnolia & Opal
• GoldenGirlsShipping -- Professor Magnolia & Opal

just to be on the safe side, i checked bulbapedia to see if i could find a character named Magnolia that wasn't the Galar Professor character, and was unsuccessful. therefore, that would mean that this is an instance of a ship having 2 names, so i figured i'd bring it to your attention so that the correct one could be identified accordingly.

Thank you so much for pointing this out! GoldenGirlsShipping was submitted in a December 2019 post, and while I can't find exactly where FairyBlossomShipping originated (most likely from a SWSH list on Tumblr), it was added in the June 2021 update. Given GoldenGirlsShipping filed first, and just barely has more real-world usage from what I can glean from Google results, this name will stand.

As an aside, I really appreciate when people bring up discrepancies like this! Though I try, I definitely don't catch all of them myself, and it's a good opportunity for some interesting discussion about the history of the list (at least it's interesting to me lol)

back with another round of silly ship names!

_oddoSamaShipping - Chili x Sordward
RustedSwordShipping - Cress x Sordward
TrunkShipping - Cilan x Sordward
BurningBulwarkShipping - Chili x Shielbert
RustedShieldShipping - Cress x Shielbert
DentedShieldShipping - Cilan x Shielbert

probably worth adding as a note that the _ in _oddosamashipping isn't a typo, the ship name is meant to be a joke on the fact that their names rhyme and they both get referred to using the sama suffix at some point in the series, so the underscore is there in place of the first letter since it's different.

I think the underscore will be ok, however, I do want to caution people that some special characters might cause formatting or SEO issues for a name now or in the future. There's nothing specifically against having special characters in a ship name (and some names currently on the list do include them) but I would keep in mind that they may have to be removed in future updates due to unforeseen technical limitations.

Hello! First time posting here but me and some friends in a server tried to come up with some ship names too for ones I haven't seen around yet so I'm finally using the account I just made to submit them myself lol

FingerHeartShipping - Amarys/Carmine
PaldeanWindShipping - Arven/Ohara

We get the finger heart emote as a reward for defeating Amarys in the league club room, and we also learn that she learnt it from Carmine too. PaldeanWind is a little basic but the whole miniseries is literally named after Ohara being a flutist and her and Arven share an episode of spotlight.

I'm deferring PaldeanWindShipping for right now in case of large community support for a pairing with this name. This is standard practice for the titles of games and anime series.

this ship seems like an obvs one, so i figured i should just bite the bullet and lock it in:

GlitteratiShipping - Billy & O'Nare [ftr, I know that there are other Billy's on the list, so you could specify this one as either Billy (Paldea) or Billy (Glitterati); whichever you think would be the most appropriate designation (and if anyone else wants to weigh in on which designation would be better, feel free to do so, and I'd be happy to go back and edit the consensus in)]

I'm listing it as Billy (Glitterati) because it's an extremely self-explanatory tag. Thanks for the suggestion!

i actually have a question i'd like to ask. so, in the midst of creating the (far more massive than i originally intended, oops XD) list of submissions in my last post, i was studying the official list very carefully, and i noticed that both brock/erika and erika/misty are listed under the same ship name of "PerfumeShipping", and neither of those pairings have alternative ship names. would it be acceptable if i created a new ship name for erika/misty (as that's the one i'm interested in), so that it could have its own unique name and not forced to be doubled up with brock/erika? or even if ppl think that "perfumeshipping" should refer to erika/misty, i'd be fine coming up w/ a new name for brock/erika. i just think that one of them should be able to get a new name to distinguish it from the other ship. i did think about adding a ship name for erika/misty alongside my other submissions, but i figured it'd be the better move to bring this issue up as a topic for discussion first!

(fwiw, my submission would've been CascadingRainbowShipping --- Erika & Misty)

When the untouchables section is eventually back, we'll reconsider some of these duplicates as recognized alternates, and I suspect that's where CascadingRainbowShipping will end up. PerfumeShipping is a very old duplicate, dating back to at least 2004 and possibly even further. Both names are actively used (well, to the extent that people ship Erika ships), sometimes even together.

(also, i kinda wish there could be some kind of notations on the names that aren't really in use to indicate that its presence on the list is more for archival purposes, as it can get quite confusing at times to figure out which is the 'correct' name that you're supposed to be using. or, say, that in the cases w/ a name being used for multiple ships, for there to be an indication as to which ship is actually associated w/ the name more. but that's possibly a different conversation for another time.)

At present, there are 31,884 names on the list, and I would estimate roughly 31,750 of them "aren't really in use" and mostly exist for archival purposes, or even more frequently, only exist for the fun of naming a ship.

But like you said, the process is more streamlined now so things like the same ship being named four times (or the same name going to multiple ships) don't happen anymore.

sweats nervously

Finally, I want to announce that the untouchables section will likely return in the near-future, and with it, a possible solution to issues related to offensive ship names and the balance between moderation and documentation. For those unaware, the untouchables section has previously been used to archive names that were separated or removed from the main list for a multitude of reasons. One of those sections was "The Inappropriate" which mostly served as an archive of ship names with swears, slurs, or other inappropriate content. I'm open to expanding this list when the section returns. If you have any suggestions for names you feel should be removed to the untouchables, please post them here (or DM them to me if you're uncomfortable naming them publicly or if Bulbagarden staff requests it) so they can be reviewed.


I'd also like to clarify, this process is currently only for content related to the ship's name, not the ship's characters. While I understand some people may feel the characters in a ship are offensive or problematic, I don't have any plans to expand the untouchables section's mandate into moderating paired characters at this time.

 

[asiryn]

i'll probably make a more in-depth response tomorrow, but on the topic of possible candidates for the new untouchables list, these two ships came immediately to mind:

• GypsyShipping --- Kirlia & Quilava [i know that this isn't a pairing that'll be in much circulation, but the g-word is a slur against the Romani people, and it just feels wrong to leave it up on the main list; thankfully, this ship seems to be the only one that uses the g-slur, and there don't seem to be ships using derivatives of it like "gypped", which was a bit of a welcome surprise to me]
• PimpNerdShipping --- Clemont & Gary [i'm sure there's more ships w/ the word "pimp" in them, but this is the one that's unfortunately seared into my memory. this is probably self-explanatory, but i don't think a word like "pimp" is appropriate to use considering the target demographic of the franchise]

 

[Herbizarre]

Oooh, an update ! Glad to see all the names I submitted got in, especially Red & Nemona !

Although, I'd like to clarify that the Aaron in "EmpyreanColonyShipping - Aaron & Kahili" is the Elite Four one. I didn't know there were multiple Aarons in Pokémon, so I assumed I didn't need to specify. To be fair, the other Aarons are distinguishable enough (the other twos are Sir Aaron, who is self-explanatory, and one of Dr. Mason's assistants from the Pokémon TCG game on Game Boy. But there are no shippings to the latter's name, so he's ruled out), but still, a clarification seems required on my part.

 

[dcdcdc26]

VengeanceStarShipping - Hugh & Penny
WhiteHotBattleShipping - Nemona & Hilda

(suggestions courtesy of TheMago3011 on reddit lol)

 

[dcdcdc26]

I wouldn't rule out the possibility of UltraSpaceShipping being recognized as an alternative on the untouchables list at some point, though.

What is the untouchables list?
I'm sure Manquoba is very busy, can someone else give me a link, or example? Thank you...!

 

[asiryn]

Scroll up a few posts to Manquoba's last post, it's explained right there

 

[Kanjouhi]

Nyot sure if anyone else's thought of this pairing yet, but just in case...
NewDarlingShipping - Tulip & Valerie

(The idea of this ship came to me last night when I was thinking about the other Kalos gym leader x Paldea gym leader ship I like that just syo happens to be between my favourite male gym leaders from their respective regions, and I was like "what if I shipped my favourite female gym leaders from those regions as well?" and then I realised the idea actually kinda made sense and here we are. Ship name is mainly because I hc that they'd both listen to Maretu, idk.)

 

[Kanjouhi]

and sorry for doublepost, but I'm even less sure on whether this ship has a name or nyot, though considering I've seen FAR less mention of Horizons ships in here compared to the games, Pokespe and Ash-era anime ships maybe it doesn't??? idk. Anyways
MiteMiteShipping - Friede & Spinel

(Named after the Hiiragi Kirai song, because I follow an artist on Pixiv who likes the ship and I'm pretty sure Mite Mite is her favourite Vocaloid song? Or her second favourite. Definitely one of the two.)

 

[Herbizarre]

and sorry for doublepost, but I'm even less sure on whether this ship has a name or nyot, though considering I've seen FAR less mention of Horizons ships in here compared to the games, Pokespe and Ash-era anime ships maybe it doesn't??? idk. Anyways
MiteMiteShipping - Friede & Spinel

(Named after the Hiiragi Kirai song, because I follow an artist on Pixiv who likes the ship and I'm pretty sure Mite Mite is her favourite Vocaloid song? Or her second favourite. Definitely one of the two.)

I don't know about other sites, but there's currently only one named ship with Friede in it which is "IndependenciaShipping", so this ship's good to go from my perspective.

 

[Manqoba]

and sorry for doublepost, but I'm even less sure on whether this ship has a name or nyot, though considering I've seen FAR less mention of Horizons ships in here compared to the games, Pokespe and Ash-era anime ships maybe it doesn't??? idk. Anyways
MiteMiteShipping - Friede & Spinel

(Named after the Hiiragi Kirai song, because I follow an artist on Pixiv who likes the ship and I'm pretty sure Mite Mite is her favourite Vocaloid song? Or her second favourite. Definitely one of the two.)

I don't know about other sites, but there's currently only one named ship with Friede in it which is "IndependenciaShipping", so this ship's good to go from my perspective.

As I said before, right now Horizons names are deferred much like PLA and SV names were, meaning you can still submit them but they won't be added yet (and I'd appreciate if people note if a name is from Horizons). There's no special ban like there was with SV before Jan 1 2023, so you can submit normally. I'm definitely not perfect though and it seems that IndependenciaShipping got past me. Congratulations lol

I'll also note, even if one slips past, it'll still be treated by the same rules. Community-chosen names for pairings with bona fide communities and first-to-file for the rarepairs that compose the vast majority of the list. Deferments just prevent us from having to make unnecessary changes.

Note to self: Tag Mollie pairings as Mollie (AG167). Tag Diana pairings as Diana (M04). Tag Mollie and Diana from Horizons as (Horizons) or (HZ).

 

[asiryn]

this is like, a very tiny error, but just wanted to mention that currently, RitzyShipping is noted as being for "Bede & Avery", when usually names are supposed to be listed in alphabetical order (so, it should be listed as "Avery & Bede"); just wanted to point it out, bc I was double-checking what the ship name was, and then had a mini-heart attack when no results popped up for "Avery & Bede", and thought for a second I was going crazy, bc I was so certain that it had a ship name. XD thankfully i was correct that "RitzyShipping" was indeed the ship name for these characters, but I figured that pointing out this minor error would hopefully prevent more confusion down the road. (bc as it stands, someone could try to look up to see if "Avery & Bede" had a ship name, and then be led to incorrectly believe that it doesn't.)

and on a similar note, when a character has a title (like "Professor Kukui" for example), should the alphabetical order be determined by said title, or by their name? bc i've seen both ways on the list, so i figured that i should ask to get an official answer. XD

 

[Manqoba]

this is like, a very tiny error, but just wanted to mention that currently, RitzyShipping is noted as being for "Bede & Avery", when usually names are supposed to be listed in alphabetical order (so, it should be listed as "Avery & Bede"); just wanted to point it out, bc I was double-checking what the ship name was, and then had a mini-heart attack when no results popped up for "Avery & Bede", and thought for a second I was going crazy, bc I was so certain that it had a ship name. XD thankfully i was correct that "RitzyShipping" was indeed the ship name for these characters, but I figured that pointing out this minor error would hopefully prevent more confusion down the road. (bc as it stands, someone could try to look up to see if "Avery & Bede" had a ship name, and then be led to incorrectly believe that it doesn't.)

and on a similar note, when a character has a title (like "Professor Kukui" for example), should the alphabetical order be determined by said title, or by their name? bc i've seen both ways on the list, so i figured that i should ask to get an official answer. XD

This isn't actually a tiny error, name order issues are a priority for the exact reason you described. Thanks for pointing it out!

This second issue about titles is a known problem and one I've been considering for a while, though it will be a significant task in any case. There are well over 700 Professor ships alone, and no consistent way to handle them. I'm not sure exactly when this issue started (perhaps Luna and esm8m handled it in opposite ways?), but it's present on the Dec 31 2016 copy of the list, esm8m's last update. I'm leaning towards saying that titles aren't part of a name when a character has a stated name (like Professor Oak) but are part of a name for an otherwise nameless character (like Iron-Masked Marauder). I think this is the more common way the list is currently formatted right now (it's almost always Officer Jenny & Nurse Joy, for example, instead of Nurse Joy & Officer Jenny) but it's something that would require a very extensive audit, likely even larger than the similar issue with untagged characters that require tags. I'm not sure exactly when it will be fixed, but it is something I'm aware of.

tldr if you're looking for submission guidance, alphabetize by name instead of title.