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Dangit Felly why
My gut is a liar and deserves to never be trusted again.
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Dangit Felly why
Has been removed, effective since Day 1It will be announced when the phase could possibly be the last phase. As an example, if the Town would get outnumbered in the current phase if they vote incorrectly then they would lose game and thus it might be the last phase.
Claims Miller—right after DawningWinds says Millers should claim. Deemed as sus behavior by some.I'm the Miller
Questions DawningWinds’ Independent claim.Dawnings claim is kinda suspicious
Says there isn’t much point to vote an inactive player. I believe there’s a typo: “Fine” should be “done”.Voting an inactive doesn't really tell us much as they haven't fine much and is a shot in the dark
Expresses surprise at Giri’s lynch, as well as noting that most people seem like they’re Town.Surprising and most people seem towny
Defends himself from Zorchic’s vote by saying he is a bit inactive on the forums.I am not very active on the forums. That's my defense.
Votes Parissong because Paris didn’t really support others’ decisions.Vote: Parissong
Agreeing with Zorchic here, you really haven't supported anyone on their decisions...
Unvotes Parissong and votes KohKimura64.Unvote: Parrisong
Vote: Kohkimura
Sorry Paris, wrong person.
Thinks that KohKimura and Officer Snake are suspicious, but isn’t very sure about Officer Snake.I'm thinking Koh or Snake. But I'm unsure about Snake.
Shows that he read the phase update in which KohKimura died.Alright.
Tells Giri his reason for voting Koh: that he had read Koh in a certain way and because Koh was not posting much. Asks about WIFOM.Giri, I chose Koh because I had a read and he was acting very quiet.
Also, Wifom?
Responds to Zorchic’s defining of WIFOM by stating that they should be careful.Well I don't want to overpredict their actions. We need to think carefully.
Warns Zorchic that they could be in trouble if they are not careful.If we're not careful Zorchic, we could be in trouble.
Votes Zorchic, because of Zorchic claiming that the town is weak and bussing. The wording is a bit unclear on this one.Vote: Zorchic
I am also going to vote you, due to you claiming that the town is weak and also the Bussing claim.
Claims that jamiebearcub said that Zorchic said the town was weak.You mentioned the town is weak according to Jamie.
Unvotes Zorchic and thinks they are a bit confused. Recommends Zorchic reread.Unvote: Zorchic
Zorchic, I think you're a bit confused and you need to re-read
Says that it’s a bit early for them to vote, because there’s a lot of action. Stays back because they’re trying to get a feel for the players.Gah, so much action right off the bat. It's difficult to just throw your vote out in the water. I guess I'm still trying to get a feel for everyone here right now
hides in trash can
Deems it strange that Officer Snake claimed Miller right after DawningWinds said Millers should claim.I do not doubt Officer Snake's claim, but it seemed a little too coincidental if not outright convenient that Dawning proclaimed Miller should claim to avoid a mislynch, followed by Officer Snake claiming the same role
Asks if there are any other inactive players besides Agent.Are there any other people who have not been active ever since confirmation?
Asks if Agent has a defense, since he didn’t post yet.@Agent2583 do you have a defense? It's midday and I am not sure if you're playing the silent card or just plain unaware of the events going on here
Comments that they’re unsure if Agent is lurking or inactive. Says that if they’re lurking, then that is a bit sus.We do not know if they are inactive or simply laying low. If it is the latter, certainly, it becomes suspicious
Shows confusion when Zorchic unvotes Agent.It looks like we are all back to square one with nothing to make of and an unstirred pot
Wants people to focus on a particular topic.Maybe if we asserted a topic of discussion some manner of conversation could happen
Seeing there are no hammer vote rules, pulls back from voting Koh. Says that Agent’s defense seems a bit weak. Asks if Agent has anything to add.I would like to vote for koh too for the same reason Zorchic said above (ie. vote on Dawn), but seeing there is no hypermajority rules to hasten the lynch, I will hold back for now.
I do not want to divert the spotlight from koh, but Agent's defense seems pretty flimsy to me.
I am inclined to think this defense is pretty weak, and conveniently piggybacks off a post Zorchic made about a possible reason why they are not posting.
Anything to contribute @Agent2583? Certainly if you're going to admit to not being active on forums but remain inactive after the admission you'd want to join the conversation
Compliments Frozen Fennec for bombing the Godfather (Tood).@Frozen Fennec sorry to see you go, but you did your due duty and took down the head honcho. Nice!
Says that Officer Snake seems harmless for the time being. Also expresses suspicion at Zorchic voting Koh quickly but Zorchic deciding not to defend them.I still suspect him to be honest, but I think they're a pretty benign threat for now seeing as nothing is arising out of them.
I agree with this sentiment. Either Zorchic sounds like they were wildly confused or trying to do a double take in an effort to cover up a misstep. Sus behaviour
Asks DawningWinds which side they’ve picked.which side do you pick?
Expresses suspicion that people are voting without much conversation.people voting now without most anyone talking makes me suspicious
wheres everyone else?
Votes DawningWinds because of the uncertainty regarding their alignment. Says the Day might be long if players aren’t talking much. Asks if there’s an amount of votes that ends the phase early.I guess since we dont know which side youre on...
Vote: DawningWinds
I feel like this is gonna be a long 48 hours, especially if peeps arent talking lol
is there an amount of votes that ends the day/night thing?
Comments that DawningWinds claiming JOAT seems “oddly specific”. Also asks why Dawning claims if they are not supporting Town.It does seem oddly specific to claim all that right away. Oddly specific as in hard to make up. But the part about [this] is unsettling. Why tell us if you arent with us? This is so much harder without facial cues aaaahhhhh
Shows that they are happy Felly is here.WOO Felly!
Says they are suspicious of Officer Snake. Also says that they were confident about DawningWinds’ role. Doesn’t know about the other players.I am suspicious of Officer Snake as well. The bad part about DawningWinds being gone is that was the only one I felt relatively confident about their role. Idk anything about the rest of you, haha
Explains that since DawningWinds didn’t say their side, they should have picked town quickly but pick mafia a bit later.When I asked them which side they hadnt decided. Technically we still don't know which side they picked. But it seems to me if they were going to pick town that wouldve been...straightforward? Basically, if they picked town I'd expect them to pick it pretty early. The longer they didnt pick, the more I'd suspect a complicated plan where they tried to help mafia.
Shows that they’re sad that Felly died (the first time).Oh no, Felly You just got here!
Agrees that being inactive doesn’t necessarily indicate suspicious behavior, but follows up that Officer Snake’s Miller claim is more suspicious than being inactive. Also expresses suspicion at KohKimura.I agree that being inactive here isnt necessarily suspicious. Miller claim could be coincidental, but I'd rank it as more suspicious than inactivity. I do find it interesting that Koh basically popped in just to vote, but I dont know if thats more or less suspicious than the miller claim.
Paris and Zorchic opted not to just throw out a vote on the first day, but now Zorchic is first to vote. Why today and not yesterday?
As of now, I'm leaning Koh or Snake, but I could probably be persuaded either way (or someone else even).
I'm curious about this, is it later yet?
Votes Koh because voting helps the game move. Thinks that this is maybe a quiet group, and that people should post more.I agree more voting/discussion helps move the game along, for that reason I'll vote
Vote: KohKimura
For now, anyway. There were 12 people at the start and only 3 votes, so maybe this is just a quiet group? I hope people start posting more
Corrects themself about prog rocker’s posts.Oh, I didn’t know the two posts were connected, I gotcha now
Comments that Frozen Fennec is out.Nice Job Fennec! Sorry you are out too though
This sits funny with me, I don't know how well I can explain this, but, if you thought something was off, why not say something? Also, "Oh well" seems like weak sauce.
As for officer snake, Id have expected a counterclaim by now if someone else was the miller, so I do think they are probably telling the truth at this point.
[This] is very different from [this]. I’ve gotta agree with Fennec on this one, I’d say Zorchic and Giri are at the top of my radar for now, (mostly for jumping on the voting bandwagon so fast) but I’m not throwing out a vote this early
Says that Giri’s defenses are stronger than Zorchic’s. Agrees that sharing a townie’s opinion does not clear anything.So far, I think Giri's defenses are stronger than Zorchic. I also agree that
[Quotes Giri]
As for officer snake, I don't think their claim is enough to warrant a lynch today. They could be worth a vig shot if we still had Dawning and they sided with town, but even then it might've been too risky.
Vote: Zorchic
It sounds like youre trying to spin things around with the WINFOM and bussing, and defending yourself by saying town agreed is weak sauce. Coupled with the post edit from earlier, and it smells pretty scummy to me.
@prog rocker @Agent2583 @Parissong what are you three thinking?
Says that Zorchic voting Koh but expecting mafia to defend them is messy. Also says that it seemed wrong to follow Zorchic’s wagon.So you voted quickly just to start convo, then thought to defend koh while assuming koh was mafia? But decided not to because of how mafia might respond? It almost sounds like you expected mafia to defend town? This sounds like a mess. Also, You can't know nothing wouldve happened if you hadn't started it, it sounds like we wrongly started following you.
...So still that you agreed with town....Mafia can agree with town lol. Mafia wouldnt really care, would they? As long as its a mislynch. Saying it wasn't a "sort of" mafia plan sounds like a "full" mafia plan.
Its very copy paste looking, but you didn't bold the part about being town so that looks disjointed to me. As in, you wrote town and copy pasted a description. If you really are the bus driver, why swap yourself? Especially the first 2 nights? Bus Driver is usually limited, it seems (too) convenient that you are "bus driver but I can't help anymore cause I used them already". Fennec can't say anything, does anyone else have proof?
Nothing here shows me anything "new" aside from the claim (which I don’t really buy). Also, you didnt comment on the edited post. As such, my vote stands.
Corrects Agent by saying that using another townie as support seems weak, not town itself.I said "defending yourself by saying town agreed is weak sauce" not "town is weak sauce"
Continues accusing Zorchic and finding any way possible to frame him as Mafia.This still sounds like you knew nothing would happen if you didnt start it.
This is easy to say but harder to prove.
And This dont fit togther. If you wanted to redirect mafia kill to fennec b/c fennec was mafia, why not vote them in the thread? I also don't get why you'd swap with yourself both times as a bus driver...It sounds like saving yourself, not helping town. Which could make you an indep serial killer. Also nearby that I missed before:
At the time I didnt question it but now I think it couldve been fishing for a cop/doc to hunt.
I didn't accuse you of being limited, I said bus driver is usually limited. As in most times. Why twist my words?
No, it implies you copied a standard readout from a different mafia thread.
This still sounds like a coverup.
From a game layout perspective, I disagree. So far we've only had a bomb, commuter and a watcher (and an indep JOAT). Given there was a godfather, theres likely a miller and a cop. Bus driver sounds "safe" compared to say, cop/doc, as theres less chance for someone to counter you. But, its still not a likely role. We've fallen too far behind to just believe a claim outta nowhere day 3. @Giri can you confirm the switch night 2?
Asks for Snake’s opinion, as well as “why” about the mislynch.Who do you think doesn't then?
Dangit Felly why
Since Felly has died, I’m posting my reads on every other player who’s still alive.
In conclusion, I think Officer Snake is indeed a Miller, and is the most inactive of those still alive. They haven’t made enough posts for me to read them further.
In conclusion, I think Agent is Town, especially because of the way he unvoted me. He hasn’t strongly accused anyone, instead only voting based on what others are doing.
In conclusion, I think there is a fair chance Parissong is Mafia. From what’s been happening in the game, the less accusatory and more thoughtful player(s) were the Mafia, so since Parissong is pulling back a little and avoiding voting, they could be scum.
Overall, jamie is fairly active, which is a good thing. Recently, though, they’ve been trying more and more to accuse me of being Mafia, which seems a bit scummy with their insistence. I’m not sure what side they seem like, since I read them as suspicious but Felly reads them as Town. I’m split on this one.
What does everyone think about mass claiming? We could be in a MyLo or LyLo situation right now. It would be best if everyone claimed so we might learn who to lynch better, unless anyone has any better ideas?
Says that it’s a bit early for them to vote, because there’s a lot of action.
Comments that they’re unsure if Agent is lurking or inactive. Says that if they’re lurking, then that is a bit sus.
Asks if Agent has a defense, since he didn’t post yet.
Wants people to focus on a particular topic.
Compliments Frozen Fennec for bombing the Godfather (Tood).
Says that Officer Snake seems harmless for the time being. Also expresses suspicion at Zorchic voting Koh quickly but Zorchic deciding not to defend them.
We should be in a vote-right-or-lose phase. How can you be thinking about next Night when we have to get past today? If we mislynch today, we will almost certainly lose.They also wanted to mass claim roles right after dawning claimed, and again now. Theres no cop reveal anymore, but I think we should keep the rest of our roles secret so mafia can't make a good decision on who to target.
This totally sounds like an OMGUS, which isnt a very good case this late in the game.Parissong, I was just reporting what you said. I was trying to be fair. You leave me no choice.
Vote: Parissong
How can you not? Also you were talking about Mylo/Lylo situations yesterday so why is it okay yesterday but not today?How can you be thinking about next Night when we have to get past today?
Mass claiming roles seems like the safest choice to me. You haven’t exactly offered a better alternative.
This is my alternative. If it comes down to a tie breaker it could be worth it. Right now all it could do is reveal doc (if there is one). If we claim and get you today, tonight your scum buddy would know who to hit. Right now, it only stands to benefit your scum buddy.Theres no cop reveal anymore, but I think we should keep the rest of our roles secret so mafia can't make a good decision on who to target. At any rate, we've got ~32 hours left to decide who to lynch, that info could help us break a tie but this early I think it just shows our hands to mafia.
This sounds like desperation to me.*Sigh* Your loss, people. I play recklessly. I am not Mafia—I repeat, not Mafia.
Although I am sorry for making you guys suspect me. We’ll lose because of me. It’s sad—it really is.
Really? What a lie. You’ll really do anything to make me look bad at this point, huh? That was not a request for mass claim. It was this:They also wanted to mass claim roles right after dawning claimed, and again now.
You can’t prove I was asking for mass claims.Anyone else want to claim a role?
Just to make it clear, I was posting my reads on everyone. It was not my intention to criticize anyone or point fingers at them. Yes, I thought you were suspicious, but originally I wanted to wait until after everyone claimed before voting. The reason I didn’t wait is because you people are already ganging up on an innocent Townie, and I needed to even the votes!To be honest lmao it's kinda hard to get involved so I'm just popping in and out. For a beginner type of game you all sure pull out some funky terms and whatnot. That's a reason for my inactivity.
Sure did not seem that way to me. I do not know how mafia games go generally so it did not seem wise to randomly throw out a vote and prematurely brand myself a target.
Generally inactive people would be branded as suspicious.
The fact that nobody batted an eye to this or to Agent is making me think all of you are in cahoots with Mafia and Agent is one. My request pretty much got swept under the rug.
Since there's none in action
I've no benefit to gain from bussing. As any town would do, congratulating taking down a mafia member after like, 3 Town died is logical.
Well everyone else was focusing on Giri giving an account here so why bother drawing suspicion to Snake when everyone is dismissing them and you're the hot topic? If I'm being perfectly honest, I am going with popular crowd opinion here and have been since the start. You say Agent is doing the same thing of voting along with the crowd yet brand them as town.
In fact, why don't I show you what I mean, since you've been ringmastering and gotten us ranks of Town down low.
Vote: Zorchic
Just to make it clear, I was posting my reads on everyone. It was not my intention to criticize anyone or point fingers at them. Yes, I thought you were suspicious, but originally I wanted to wait until after everyone claimed before voting. The reason I didn’t wait is because you people are already ganging up on an innocent Townie, and I needed to even the votes!
I wanted us to mass claim so we can lynch accurately. Why do you think I claimed? To show my innocence.
You definitely sound innocent.
Also thanks for checking claims on me just to ensure I'm all right.
This is my first game. I'm not as experienced as everyone supposes. As such, I may not have good reads and may not act in reasonable ways.That's fine. I am just responding to your read, but after a lot of mislynches that were propagated from your claims, so either you have really bad reads or scum. Judging from your aptitude, I assume the latter.