Official Pre-Pokémon Sword & Pokémon Shield Speculation & Leaks thread

[Icy Wind]

Yay, we’re back to the “Is Meltan/Melmetal gen 7 or gen 8?” semantics debate...

We desperately need some leaks to talk about.

 

[prog rocker]

Okay, so Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee have toddler move names. And now that Meltan and Melmetal have been added at the end of the current Pokédex as 808 and 809, does that make them Alola Pokémon? But they aren't obtainable in Alola. Though, 5 new Pokémon were added in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, could Meltan and Melmetal be the same case as Poipole to Zeroara? Or are they next-gen Pokémon released early like Togepi and Munchlax and happen to precede their region's starters like Victini?

Not this again...

Just... let that topic die. Nothing good came from discussing that.

 

[PurplePopplio]

Okay, so Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee have toddler move names. And now that Meltan and Melmetal have been added at the end of the current Pokédex as 808 and 809, does that make them Alola Pokémon? But they aren't obtainable in Alola. Though, 5 new Pokémon were added in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, could Meltan and Melmetal be the same case as Poipole to Zeroara? Or are they next-gen Pokémon released early like Togepi and Munchlax and happen to precede their region's starters like Victini?

If I remember correctly, their index numbers indicate that they are Gen 7 Pokemon.

 

[Icy Wind]

Not this again...

Just... let that topic die. Nothing good came from discussing that.

It’s like the 2018 vs 2019 debate earlier this year all over again.

Except this time it literally doesn’t matter if they’re gen 7 or gen 8

 

[BackSet]

*sigh*

Meltan and Melmetal are gen 7 pokemon. This is true because LGPE, their debut games, are gen 7 games.

 

[RileyXY1]

It's already confirmed that Meltan and Melmetal are in fact Gen 7 Pokemon. Their index numbers are listed with the other Gen 7 Pokemon.

 

[Poke Dragon]

Enough with the Meltan/Melmetal debate already. It doesn't matter anymore, they're Gen 7 because of their hidden index numbers and that's final, case closed.

 

[RileyXY1]

Do you think that LGPE will affect Gen 8?

 

[Icy Wind]

Do you think that LGPE will affect Gen 8?

Not really. Gen 8 is no doubt deep in development and it’s probably too late to make changes based on LGPE feedback, unless they delay the game.

I’m more worried about LGPE affecting gen 9 and beyond.

 

[Poke Dragon]

Gen 8 is already too far into development for it to be affected by LGPE gameplay-wise, but some references might still be made.

 

[IncineROAR]

It doesn't matter what gen Meltan falls into, it's a boring mythical that is nothing more than a creation to market Pokemon GO! and those ruddy Switch games.

I don't think LGPE will have much influence over future games, I don't think the games will do that well in terms comparative sales with other Pokemon core RPG games.

 

[prog rocker]

Doesn't it also bypass accuracy checks, though?

*checks again* Oh right, it bypasses accuracy checks, my bad. Also, I was under the impression that Return's max power was 120, not 102, so you're right, Eeveempact is better than Return.

Also, here's that yellow thing's moves (I'll be using my names):

Pikaturbo (Zippy Zap): Has less power than the rest (50), but it will always crit and hits first.
Salpikasurf* (Splishy Splash): It has 30% chance of paralyzing the opponent.
Pikadive/Pikafall (Floaty Fall): 30% of making of making the opponent flinch.
Pikastorm (Pika Papow): Like Eeveempact, but Electric. I guess this has even more uses since at least this can benefit from Super Effective moves.

What I get from comparing this is, while people are saying Pikachu has better stats than Eevee, Eevee has the better moves, specially since they always have some kind of effect to go along with them. I wonder what would happen if those moves could be learned by their evolutions.

*Couldn't find a fitting pun for this one, so I'm leaving the Spanish name as is.

 

[SinnohEevee]

I don't think LGPE will affect Gen 8, but they could affect Sinnoh remakes. Pretty sure LGPE is going to do excellently. It's Pokémon after all, and it's cute.

Eevee is my favourite Pokémon, but I think these moves are OP, mainly because they have a guaranteed second effect.

 

[nickdt]

I don't think LGPE will affect Gen 8, but they could affect Sinnoh remakes. Pretty sure LGPE is going to do excellently. It's Pokémon after all, and it's cute.

Eevee is my favourite Pokémon, but I think these moves are OP, mainly because they have a guaranteed second effect.

Imo, i think the main problem is those move are introduced early on.

 

[Oriden]

Okay, so Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee have toddler move names. And now that Meltan and Melmetal have been added at the end of the current Pokédex as 808 and 809, does that make them Alola Pokémon? But they aren't obtainable in Alola. Though, 5 new Pokémon were added in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, could Meltan and Melmetal be the same case as Poipole to Zeroara? Or are they next-gen Pokémon released early like Togepi and Munchlax and happen to precede their region's starters like Victini?

Victini's whole thing is victory and winning, so it coming in first in the Unova pokedex was probably symbolic. Meltan and Melmetal have no such symbolism, so I feel that their numbers coming after Zeraora make them definitively Gen 7.

Being Mythicals released in a non-Alolan game, I can't say that they are Alolan pokemon... I think Mythicals often somewhat bypass being a part of any region due to canon rarity and their promotional use between generations. Heck, technically speaking, Meltan isn't even a Kanto pokemon- you have to get it in Pokemon GO first and then send it to LGPE.

 

[RileyXY1]

I don't think LGPE will affect Gen 8, but they could affect Sinnoh remakes. Pretty sure LGPE is going to do excellently. It's Pokémon after all, and it's cute.

Eevee is my favourite Pokémon, but I think these moves are OP, mainly because they have a guaranteed second effect.

I don't think that Sinnoh will get a Let's Go game until they make an actual Sinnoh remake.

 

[prog rocker]

I still believe LGPE is a test to see what they could do to the Gen VIII games. Seeing how they implemented things people have asked for in LGPE makes me think that GF is not deaf like people like to think.

 

[Minya_Nouvelle]

Yay, we’re back to the “Is Meltan/Melmetal gen 7 or gen 8?” semantics debate...

We desperately need some leaks to talk about.

If I only for the sake of changing subject, I'll share something I found in a 4chan thread. It was posted as a reply to a different er... "leak"

Spoiler: Spoiler

You're wrong

>the region is Central America

>Grass starter is sloth that becomes a Grass/Ground megatherium (giant ground sloth)
>Fire starter starts as a helmeted mouse that evolves into a Fire/Steel armadillo type creature - quite small for a starter
>Water starter is a snake that evolves into a Water/Dragon dragon serpent

>theme of the region is climate change
>weather is a key feature of the region, and weather/terrain moves have been overhauled to match
>most areas will have changeable weather and terrain presets on the field of battle
>the 'evil team' are hoping to unearth legendary 'weather fairies' to ease the climate change effects

>region is full of rainforest, beaches, Aztec-tier ruins, dive areas, mountains, rivers, etc.
>it will have more cities than Alola and feel more like a traditional game
>8 Gyms setup return
>You will discover Totem-like 'boss fight' pokemon during your travels too

>lots of new pokemon
>regional variants return
>no new megas
>no new cross-gen evolutions (excluding regional variant stuff)

Edit: formatting

 

[PocketMonster]

yeah i am about to get to the 3rd gym and I am sure i have seen like 4 of those calendar map pic things. but I am one of those people who clicks on everything which means i hit every house too.

 

[BackSet]

Does anything happen when you click them? Like does it say "the date is x" or whatever?