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guzmania said:
....I can't get past that song's motif
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It's not the only reference to Toby Fox's prior music works within his Pokemon music. The intro to the Area Zero theme uses the same notes from the piano part of Here We Are from Undertale, which is probably intentional given parallels between the areas those songs play in in their respective games.

There's also a section of Battle! AI Professor that I've heard is ripped from one of his Homestuck tracks, although I'm not familiar enough with Homestuck to confirm this. To me it sounds like part of Big Shot from Deltarune.
 
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Figured I would give an update to my opinion on Toby Fox's musical contributions to Pokémon. I enjoy the Area Zero theme and the Battle at the Zero lab! I think both are great tracks. The academy theme is nice, but I do wonder why there are three variations of it outside of using different versions for different parts of the day. The Ace Academy Theme is fine. His remix of Celestial is fine; I think Celestial is a good song to have for the credits and reprising it with a remix for the dlc is nice. However, I just think the remix is fine. I am rather unmoved by the Battle Tower theme of Sword and Shield aside for building up hype. And I actively dislike the Tera Raid Battle theme. Overall, I would say that I enjoy more of his contributions that I initially gave him credit for, but I still think his contributions are somewhat overrated.
 
I don't like 3rd versions for a few reasons. When gamefreak was making them it gave this idea that the first pair was basically a beta test. Why even buy the new titles when a better third version is gonna release next year?

But recently what really has me against 3rd versions is the remakes. Since oras and BDSP didn't include their 3rd versions content it makes them feel less like gamefreak went back to fix some flaws and now like they only went back to cheaply sell the same game again. Granted this is in retrospect. But seriously it makes no sense to have made corrections on a past title only to the ignore those corrections on the remake.

Why didn't Watson use Manetric in the first place was already stupid for example but then going back to his ruby and sapphire team of a Magnemite, magneton and Voltorb felt even dumber....

Why is aron still using a beautifly!?!

I really wanna know what drugs game freak was on when making Diamond and pearls teams. Like why make an electric gym that doesn't use one of your new electric types (eletivire) and to make up for it he uses...Ampbipom really? Or a fire elite 4 with 2 fire types?

Did they pick these things out of a hat at random after making that regions Pokedex?
 
Fairy Type Arceus said:
I don't like 3rd versions for a few reasons. When gamefreak was making them it gave this idea that the first pair was basically a beta test. Why even buy the new titles when a better third version is gonna release next year?

But recently what really has me against 3rd versions is the remakes. Since oras and BDSP didn't include their 3rd versions content it makes them feel less like gamefreak went back to fix some flaws and now like they only went back to cheaply sell the same game again. Granted this is in retrospect. But seriously it makes no sense to have made corrections on a past title only to the ignore those corrections on the remake.

Why didn't Watson use Manetric in the first place was already stupid for example but then going back to his ruby and sapphire team of a Magnemite, magneton and Voltorb felt even dumber....

Why is aron still using a beautifly!?!

I really wanna know what drugs game freak was on when making Diamond and pearls teams. Like why make an electric gym that doesn't use one of your new electric types (eletivire) and to make up for it he uses...Ampbipom really? Or a fire elite 4 with 2 fire types?

Did they pick these things out of a hat at random after making that regions Pokedex?
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I definitely agree that Wattson should’ve used Manectric in the first place to begin with.
Regarding your Electric gym claim, it most likely has to do with how most new evolutions in Generation IV were unobtainable through regular means in DP. Electivire happened to be one of them. I still dislike the fact that this decision was made in the end; the DP Pokédex should’ve been more complete with much more type variety.
On the topic of such things, there should’ve never been a Ghost or Dragon Elite Four member in Kanto/the Indigo League if there were going to be only one evolution line of each type. It makes WAY more sense for a more abundant type to have had a notable type specialist. I will say this, though: I’m SUPER glad we didn’t get a notable Dragon-type specialist for the Sinnoh region.
Regarding 3rd games, while I can understand your side of this topic, might I add that Pokémon Yellow was remade? The Let’s Go games are the “remakes” in question for Yellow, and while they do have flaws, such as the Go capture mechanic instead of the ability to battle wild Pokémon regularly, at least we got remakes that have 3rd game/enhanced title features, let alone remakes of a 3rd game.
 
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Toby Fox's motif-based music design needs to be applied to older songs that pre-date his involvement.

Anybody want a remix of Kanto Trainer Battle in his style? That would make for a perfect final boss fight.
 
Pasio said:
But then people would complain about too many unskippable cutscenes again :p
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And there a couple of ways to bypass that complaint: the option to skip cutscenes, which is already in the games starting with LGP/E, or the option to mute character voices.
 
The writer is why the games do not have voice acting, as he states he wants all the character voices up to the player's interpetation
 
Sheep40 said:
The writer is why the games do not have voice acting, as he states he wants all the character voices up to the player's interpetation
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that's kinda funny considering that we keep getting characters that are themed around music like piers and ryme, which feel like they were designed to have voice acting in mind. especially ryme.
 
Thegameandwatch said:
I kinda wished that the mainline games would stopped doing silent protagonists or at least have more dialogue options but that’s probably asking too much.
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The reason silent protagonists are a thing is because they want them to be a self-insert, they want it to feel like you the player is actually a character in the story so they don't want the character to say anything the player might not. Maybe in the far future when AI is more advanced there could possibly be a way around that where you could supply your own dialogue via a microphone and the characters could dynamically respond to your lines, but AI DEFINITELY is not there yet (AI content is so bad right now that it elicits an eye roll from almost everyone). So for the time being silent protagonists may be a necessary evil to some degree.
 
Bolt Strike said:
The reason silent protagonists are a thing is because they want them to be a self-insert, they want it to feel like you the player is actually a character in the story so they don't want the character to say anything the player might not. Maybe in the far future when AI is more advanced there could possibly be a way around that where you could supply your own dialogue via a microphone and the characters could dynamically respond to your lines, but AI DEFINITELY is not there yet (AI content is so bad right now that it elicits an eye roll from almost everyone). So for the time being silent protagonists may be a necessary evil to some degree.
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ugh, i hope they don't do that ai thing. gross.
 
I honestly never felt that the protagonist was an avatar of the player because you literally have no choices about anything in the story. The stories are always incredibly linear, the player is never given a choice on how to deal with characters, story events and so on. Pokemon isn't Fallout New Vegas, a game where i have actual choices on how to proceed through the story and quests.
 
Norzan said:
I honestly never felt that the protagonist was an avatar of the player because you literally have no choices about anything in the story. The stories are always incredibly linear, the player is never given a choice on how to deal with characters, story events and so on. Pokemon isn't Fallout New Vegas, a game where i have actual choices on how to proceed through the story and quests.
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but you have a choice in what pokemon to use, what moves to teach them etc. It's probably be harder to bond with your pokemon if it isn't your avatar interacting with them.
 
toastghost said:
ugh, i hope they don't do that ai thing. gross.
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Not sure why you'd think that? It's not doable right now of course but depending on how much AI advances I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes a standard feature in the future.

To me, it's a very tempting idea. The immersion level would be incredible. It'd be like a holonovel from Star Trek.
 
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There Is No Arceus said:
It's probably be harder to bond with your pokemon if it isn't your avatar interacting with them.
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Never been a problem to me regardless if the player character is meant to be an avatar of the player. In fact, all playable characters are established with actual canon names, they are not characters created from a creation screen like in a Bethesda game. With the latter you can actually create avatars for the player to put themselves in, much harder to do with a character that already exists and has canon name.
 
BorealRookidee said:
Not sure why you'd think that? It's not doable right now of course but depending on how much AI advances I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes a standard feature in the future.

To me, it's a very tempting idea. The immersion level would be incredible. It'd be like a holonovel from Star Trek.
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because I don't like ai? ai steals content from actually talented artists and writers to regurgitate slop, not caring about actual quality and only caring about profit. I don't want a pokemon game where every single character is just an ai. that'll show me that gamefreak doesn't care about the employees that write the game or the actual quality of the story, and nothing turns me off from a piece of media more than knowing that the people making it just don't care.

on the silent protagonist thing, if there has to be a silent protagonist, they have to give you the ability to customize every single part of them, not just hair style.
 
toastghost said:
because I don't like ai? ai steals content from actually talented artists and writers to regurgitate slop, not caring about actual quality and only caring about profit. I don't want a pokemon game where every single character is just an ai. that'll show me that gamefreak doesn't care about the employees that write the game or the actual quality of the story, and nothing turns me off from a piece of media more than knowing that the people making it just don't care.

on the silent protagonist thing, if there has to be a silent protagonist, they have to give you the ability to customize every single part of them, not just hair style.
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Regarding the first thing, this would be text generation, not visual (for the most part) so the "stealing art" argument (which is already kinda flimsy tbh) doesn't really make sense here.

And this WOULD require writing by the way. Not every piece of dialogue would be written by a human, but general story direction, character's personalities, ect, still would. Honesly all you're showing here is that you don't really understand AI and how it works.

AI has problems. I can't deny that, because it's true. But AI is also not inherently evil, as so many people are currently making it out to be.
 
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