There was a scum Jailer, flipped.
Unfortunately for you, the final decision should be yours and Potato's. This is a tough game to have to town lead in.
Yu-Gi-Oh! player located.
Where I come from roleblockers can usually stop the kill. I gather that isn't the case here?
They would have started as a janitor/redirector/neighbour and then gained the ability to activate their dead ally's abilities, which seems roughly in line wiht the power level for this game. I'm not sure i understand how a redirector/jailer could have create the double block scenario though. If we're both town, then scum must have the ability to roleblock at least two players.
Yeah, a blocker is not a killstopper, it would only stop the Janitor modifier on the kill.
I doubt scum would start with more than 2 roles, one was Framer Jailer and one was Strongman 2x Rolecop. Last one probably started as Janitor Neighbor or Janitor Redirector. Jamie could still get a 3rd ability on promotion tho.
All Redirector variants that I know of basically mind control person A to target person B, whether person A holstered or targetted a C does not matter.
I doubt there are three roleblockers all potentially active at Night 1 in the same game. I also had no idea about that mechanic of shogi, gotta look it up.
That is a "from your POV" thing and obviously wrong from my POV. I agree it is very unlikely there are 5 Pawns this game, and scum promotion needs to account for that, which is why I am not so sure about you being scum anymore.
The first part is how it works yeah. However, protectives are usually not informed when their actions failed, only investigatives who expect a result do. Yet you claim to be bus driver who was told they failed, so Ex might be processing it differently than hosting standard here for this game. No way to know since I have not gained a shot of a non-investigative ability yet. Also for the record, both Jamie and beryl claimed that after Night 2 all their shots were used up. Did not clarify if 1x or 2x, or who they targetted to check for drivings and blockings.
It would be a good basis if scum had Jailer still alive, as things are this could not have happened without promotion.
Again I was taking from my POV, our POV cannot be the same when it comes to flavor, nothing more can be said on the matter.
Do you really believe the game started with Minish, toast, Raven and yet another blocking role? Then what did scum exactly gain at promotion, the redirection? Still checks out with only Jamie, no one else was talking about redirection before Strongman flipped (confirming it exists) and you claimed. I did not even think of it until you claimed blocked too, hence the mindblown.
Why? This game has an excess of power roles. If zinn was a cop that means we had a tracker/watcher, a cop, a UB, and four more players that could have become investigative roles at N5. Thats an absurd amount of invesitgative power, so it makes sense that scum might have two roleblockers to help counteract it.
I was also told i succeeded N2. What have your night actions been this game and what kind of results did you get from them?
Ah, I'm not familiar with redirectors working like that. If thats the standard here I can see how thats a real possibility then.
We don't know what promotion does for scum aside from upgrade their role in some way, but the third scum player would have to have had a pretty stacked role in order for the events to add up. They would need to be able to doubleblock in one night while being able to janitor sometimes as well. I wonder if raven's body being released is related to the doubleblock. Maybe its they can capture some of the players who die and then use them to power up their own abilities for a night or gain one-shot abilities based on the player's role? In that case releasing raven could have given them an extra block and a regular block/redirect could have been their second one. It still doesn't feel as likely as one of us lying about being blocked though.
PoE.
Scum used rolestopper? Also, if scum!Raganarokio had two abilities you would still them visiting two people.
Alright, we both claimed to eachother day 0. I was then further convinced by the host after I set up a little trap to confirm us both.
I brought up a redirect because 1) that is a role that can counter me and Beryllium, I specifically asked about strongman interaction and was told that it did not affect the fact that we were bodyguarding. 2) If a town roleblocker comes out and says “hey I didn’t tile block the person being roleblocked” and no one else claims roleblocked, it’s common sense to realise there’s a redirector.
Zexy’s role fits better as the Queen. Knights are beloved by the people, Knights were like cops in the medieval times.
2x, but we could protect two people on the first shot.
That actually sounds pretty likely, they can place a role stopper on you and roleblock Zexy.
I 100% believe both jamie and bery are town they have done nothing hut try to help town all game and now they are being sussed just because jamie mentioned there might be a redirector
Care to explain why everyone else is less likely scum than me? In particular, zexy's claims are also unconfirmed and NKing zinn N2 makes a lot more sense if the scumteam was him+dawning than if it was me+dawning.
Why does queen make sense as backup? Pawn makes a lot of sense, but not in this game because promotion is already a game mechanic. I don't really feel like backup fits any of the other chess pieces, and is rather a better match for a shogi piece considering the game actively utilizes captured (dead) pieces. I don't really understand your softing meta well but would it be unusual for a scum player who rolled universal backup to start softing it from the beginning of the game?
Minish and Potato confirmed, I trust Milk. Would you consider yourself a counter claim to Zexy?
A Queen has the movement capabilities of every piece, and no not really. The softing meta is quite wild after last game.
