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I'd like to take a closer look at the DrumBeats lynch.
Doctor Floptopus: First post: enters, makes a joke, gives a warning of her inactivity, restates Hellcrow's point, leaves. Gives a slight indication that she sides with Hellcrow, which is later reinforced by her second post. Second post: quotes several posts and gives brief replies. I wish she had provided more thoughts on everyone instead of just singling out people. Flop voted for Drum but said she wasn't sure where to stand with him. Yet she voted for him anyway. I think this was a reckless vote, because she left a vague and ambiguous post and vote knowing she likely wouldn't be able to make it back before EoD, possibly to avoid having to explain herself or leaving room to cover/justify her actions. I think she should have made a more substantial post if she was only going to show up for them so we could get a better read on her. The vote on Drum was very well timed, right between two votes; the one that started the wagon and the one that finished it off. All of this behavior reminds me all too well of Flop in SWRMM, when I was on the scum team with her and she used her inactivity to sly under the radar until the very end of the game and also manage to get the lynches she wanted without having to explain herself very much. Flop's inactivity as it applies to Drum's lynch is really hurting town because it's potentially letting scum slip under the radar and I want to ensure that doesn't happen again.
Jolty Febe: I've already mentioned the flaws in her reasoning, and I still don't understand her actions. She first became suspicious of Drum from something that Drum didn't even do, and has stuck ardently with that initial interaction. It kind of sounded like she was taking Zexy's policy lynching idea and trying to carry it out, whereas Zexy soon dropped it. She continued to play the game and interact with everyone, but remained steadfast in her vote on me to try to get to Drum as she claimed. Then when the Drum wagon started to build up again near EoD she switches to Drum directly to clinch the lynch. I'm still conflicted as to whether this course of action was just weak townie behavior or actual scummy behavior. I did like the tone of some of her posts, but I'm still offput by her confusing logic. @Jolty Febe I'd really like to hear what you plan to do now that you got the results of the lynch you wanted. Did you find the information you were looking for?
Hellcrow: Drum posted his thoughts on every player, but Hellcrow felt he was being unjustly attacked and tunneled, which admittedly did lead into a tunnel and the subsequent Drum/Hellcrow feud. Hellcrow was being quite defensive here, responding to almost everything Drum had to say to him. It's actually ironic, the more Drum called out Hellcrow for being defensive, the more defensive Hellcrow became. At some point it looked to me like his behavior shifted from being defensive to outright frustrated. His vote wasn't OMGUS-level, but I think there was some general resentment for Drum contained in that vote. Hellcrow could go either way: overly-defensive scum or a tryhard townie who gets frustrated when he tries to contribute but people don't listen to him and/or attack him for it. Leaning towards the latter because this also seems to be the case with his interactions with people other than Drum (mainly JayDee and leetic), but won't count out the former.
Overall, I'm still surprised that this lynch even happened. Drum did not do anything particularly scummy to warrant the lynch; certainly not moreso than some other players. I think the lynch was a way for scum to get rid of a strong town player in lieu of their lack of a night kill.
All three who voted for Drum look scummy, but both scum piling onto the same relatively small wagon would be too obvious and poor play on their part. I do think there's at least one scum in that pile however. Order of scum speculation: Flop, Jolty Febe, Hellcrow. Other suspects are Pikochu for conveniently sheeping both Zexy and Drum and, and JayDee for his back-and-forth jumping-from-player-to-player behavior that I didn't make much of before Zexy's analysis at the start of this phase which brought up some good points. Zexy and Caps are both town reads for their post quality, contributions, and general tone. Leetic's being recklessly offensive but that's been his town meta for a while now and it's ended up getting him lynched more than once. Of course, I should keep in mind that since this is solely a meta read it's a relatively weak and unreliable read. Null read on lovandra.
Of those three who voted for Drum, I find Flop to be the scummiest based on my analysis above so vote: Doctor Floptopus @Elieson
Doctor Floptopus: First post: enters, makes a joke, gives a warning of her inactivity, restates Hellcrow's point, leaves. Gives a slight indication that she sides with Hellcrow, which is later reinforced by her second post. Second post: quotes several posts and gives brief replies. I wish she had provided more thoughts on everyone instead of just singling out people. Flop voted for Drum but said she wasn't sure where to stand with him. Yet she voted for him anyway. I think this was a reckless vote, because she left a vague and ambiguous post and vote knowing she likely wouldn't be able to make it back before EoD, possibly to avoid having to explain herself or leaving room to cover/justify her actions. I think she should have made a more substantial post if she was only going to show up for them so we could get a better read on her. The vote on Drum was very well timed, right between two votes; the one that started the wagon and the one that finished it off. All of this behavior reminds me all too well of Flop in SWRMM, when I was on the scum team with her and she used her inactivity to sly under the radar until the very end of the game and also manage to get the lynches she wanted without having to explain herself very much. Flop's inactivity as it applies to Drum's lynch is really hurting town because it's potentially letting scum slip under the radar and I want to ensure that doesn't happen again.
Jolty Febe: I've already mentioned the flaws in her reasoning, and I still don't understand her actions. She first became suspicious of Drum from something that Drum didn't even do, and has stuck ardently with that initial interaction. It kind of sounded like she was taking Zexy's policy lynching idea and trying to carry it out, whereas Zexy soon dropped it. She continued to play the game and interact with everyone, but remained steadfast in her vote on me to try to get to Drum as she claimed. Then when the Drum wagon started to build up again near EoD she switches to Drum directly to clinch the lynch. I'm still conflicted as to whether this course of action was just weak townie behavior or actual scummy behavior. I did like the tone of some of her posts, but I'm still offput by her confusing logic. @Jolty Febe I'd really like to hear what you plan to do now that you got the results of the lynch you wanted. Did you find the information you were looking for?
Hellcrow: Drum posted his thoughts on every player, but Hellcrow felt he was being unjustly attacked and tunneled, which admittedly did lead into a tunnel and the subsequent Drum/Hellcrow feud. Hellcrow was being quite defensive here, responding to almost everything Drum had to say to him. It's actually ironic, the more Drum called out Hellcrow for being defensive, the more defensive Hellcrow became. At some point it looked to me like his behavior shifted from being defensive to outright frustrated. His vote wasn't OMGUS-level, but I think there was some general resentment for Drum contained in that vote. Hellcrow could go either way: overly-defensive scum or a tryhard townie who gets frustrated when he tries to contribute but people don't listen to him and/or attack him for it. Leaning towards the latter because this also seems to be the case with his interactions with people other than Drum (mainly JayDee and leetic), but won't count out the former.
Overall, I'm still surprised that this lynch even happened. Drum did not do anything particularly scummy to warrant the lynch; certainly not moreso than some other players. I think the lynch was a way for scum to get rid of a strong town player in lieu of their lack of a night kill.
All three who voted for Drum look scummy, but both scum piling onto the same relatively small wagon would be too obvious and poor play on their part. I do think there's at least one scum in that pile however. Order of scum speculation: Flop, Jolty Febe, Hellcrow. Other suspects are Pikochu for conveniently sheeping both Zexy and Drum and, and JayDee for his back-and-forth jumping-from-player-to-player behavior that I didn't make much of before Zexy's analysis at the start of this phase which brought up some good points. Zexy and Caps are both town reads for their post quality, contributions, and general tone. Leetic's being recklessly offensive but that's been his town meta for a while now and it's ended up getting him lynched more than once. Of course, I should keep in mind that since this is solely a meta read it's a relatively weak and unreliable read. Null read on lovandra.
Of those three who voted for Drum, I find Flop to be the scummiest based on my analysis above so vote: Doctor Floptopus @Elieson
On a serious note, do you find it strange how JayDee's apologizing to you for thinking you're scum (and for pressuring Hellcrow)? You're certainly not cleared yet; no one is. It's almost as if he knows somehow that you are indeed town and once you confronted him he backs down knowing he's running the risky of trying to paint a good looking townie. 
