Charmander4
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Is there no word on other Ash Pokémon besides Butterfree and Charmander?
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Omg tears after cloudy weather!!!!!!!!
She is talking about the original series BGM Tears after the cloudy weather, which is apparently used/remixed in this movie....Am I missing something here?
I think you have a warped idea about Anniversary. If Brock and Misty would've been there, it still wouldn't celebrate the entire franchise. They probably chose new characters to appear neutral towards all regions, since if Brock and Misty were included, people would requires x character.
Spider-Man is a more notable and famous case of incomplete conclusions before the reboot settles in.* Yes, there was complaining about these reboots.* But on the other hand, the new series end up getting its own set of fans and followings.* And ultimately, the blame goes to the people who canceled it and not to the series that replaced it.* Because everyone knows that Spider-Man has multiple incarnations and continuities.* Enough for everyone to choose and not be confined to one.*
Isn't that why people also wanted an Adventures anime?* Or any new Pokémon anime in general?
Ash M20 is essentially Ultimate Peter Parker.* He's a new interpretation of the character that coincides with his mainstream counterpart.* To say that he ruined the original Ash is like saying Ultimate Spider-Man ruined the original Earth-616 Spider-Man when really, the mainstream Spider-Man's major problems are solely within its own writing team and not the writers of Ultimate Spider-Man.* The fact is, the major issues with the original anime lies with the SM series rather than M20.* SM never made properly established itself as a part of the main continuity nor identity itself as a new universe altogether.*
Because SM is technically a continuation of XY and presumably follows the same Ash, the responsibility of continuity falls to that series.
There is no indication of M20 being apart of the SM saga.* It is likely that the M20 is a standalone movie.* And no, manga tie-ins do not count as they are non-canon to begin with.* This movie has a completely different art style from SM and there is no footage of Alola anywhere.* It is its own movie.
And considering how XYZ ended, that was a satisfying ending that nearly wrapped up all the established plot points, with a new phrase "And to our own Way."* Sure the adventure continues and there were unresolved plot points, but Ash's journey is never-ending by nature.* Just like how Spider-Man never stops fighting crime even when his character reach full maturity and demands him to retire and have a family.* It is foolhardy to think that Ash will stop if he becomes a champion of an Elite Four.* Pokémon Master is not a measurable title.* It's a strive with impossible standards.* For the best always keep striving to be the best, even if no one else can top them.* This is why May will still be where she was now even if she won the Grand Festival.* As well as Dawn, Iris, Serena and Misty.* Even if they won their respective goals, they'll still keep striving to be the very best because the best has no limits.
And I've already noted the demands for an alternate Pokémon anime.* As well as the fact that some fans have gone to create their own anime universe to clean up the continuity and character errors of the past (GS Ball, looking at you).
The movie's goal is to focus on Ash and Pikachu.* Their origin story and their connection to the Ho-Oh.* That alone is nostalgia enough.* But it's more than just a retelling of the same story.* It's adding something new as well.* Giving new context and ideas.* Such as the potential finale for the Pokémon series.* Would it be Ash finally winning a Pokémon League?* If it was before 2016, I would say yes.* But after seeing these movie trailers, I realize how insignificant the Leagues were compare to Ash finally meeting the Ho-Oh he saw long ago.
To say it discredits "all impact, effort and contribution other characters and pokemon left" is forgetting that this is a new continuity that focus a crucial aspect of the anime rather than focusing on everything this 20 year old anime series has given us.
If this was 10 years ago, you might be on to something.* But I feel that the anime has too many protagonists (and antagonist) from the past and inevitably, some will be out of focus to compete for screentime and speaking.* SM is simply pushing to the max with its classroom class.* But this point, only an official manga could do justice for a cast reunion, and even then I worry about spotlights.
If the movie is about the original Ash and his last adventure, then I can understand.* But it's a new Ash in a new universe.* As such, I can never get angry at it for omitting old characters and Pokémon.* I have more ire towards SM since it's technically a continuation of XY (and by an extension, OS-BW) but refuses go further into Ash's past even when there's a 20th anniversary special episode that could do that for new audiences.
Pokebeach was supposed to upload a summary nearly an hour ago.
Except the 20th anniversary and Generation II are OS-related and Marshadow could have been used anywhere. I still fail to see why this movie had to be a reboot (rather than an interquel) when a simple flashback to Ash's beginning would have been enough.PokeBeach raised an interesting point about how the film ultimately had to market so many different things at once (20th anniversary, Gen 2 Pokemon GO update, Gen 7, Marshadow). Looking at it like that, it's unsurprising that it ended up being far from a straight nostalgia flick.
Cram what? I am not even sure why Marshadow wasn't kept for next year; kids would probably be satisfied with Pikachu and Ho-Oh as distributions.
Well, it's a moot point. I never had a problem with Marshadow being in the movie, and if anything I consider its role wasted potential. Why not explore Ho-Oh's afterlife theme via a Ghost-type legendary? Instead,For all we know USUM will come out with two or three new legendaries or legendary formes that will have their own film. Meanwhile, Sun and Moon's cycle is coming to an end, and Marshadow is the last Pokemon in that game to be distributed.
There simply may not have been room to hold Marshadow back another year.