Official Pre-Pokémon Sword & Pokémon Shield Speculation & Leaks thread

[Defiant]

I think you're the one looking at absolutes...? I mean, you keep going on about those two eevee-lutions even though they're perfectly retcon-able and not even that immersion-breaking.

How are they retconable, what's the in story explanation? In addition to them the Pokemon that evolve with a certain move are a bit suspect as well.

 

[Myth]

In fairness, didn't Masuda also "hint" at Rainbow Rocket through a tweet?

We aren't sure about that, actually. It's something arguable.

It was a photo taken at a promotional event.

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[Saternoir]

View: https://twitter.com/The_BlckPhnx/status/1097026841917960192?s=19


Crown and scepter again....

People STILL falling for this? Well I lost faith on humanity and specifically Pokémon Community ages ago so not surprised.

 

[Oriden]

Idk, weren't people at one point highly skeptical of the Let's Go logos as well?

We have a lot of reasons to discredit these logos, though... namely because they have shown up on a ton of confirmed fakes already. Also that "trailer" clip just says 2019- no way we're getting a title drop and no release day still.

 

[Oriden]

How are they retconable, what's the in story explanation? In addition to them the Pokemon that evolve with a certain move are a bit suspect as well.

I think the more important thing is how did no one in five regions notice that Clefairy can kick a Dragonite's ass?

For the sake of getting nice things, sometimes you just gotta shrug it off. XD

 

[SinnohEevee]

Are Crown and Sceptre even opposites/complementary?

 

[Defiant]

Are Crown and Sceptre even opposites/complementary?

 

[SinnohEevee]

I think the more important thing is how did no one in five regions notice that Clefairy can kick a Dragonite's ass?

For the sake of getting nice things, sometimes you just gotta shrug it off. XD

Or that Salamence can scratch a Jigglypuff with his Dragon Claw without her feeling anything.

 

[Icy Wind]

Are Crown and Sceptre even opposites/complementary?

They complement each other very well.

The common theme between them being hoaxes.

 

[RileyXY1]

Crown/Sceptre is dead. Let's just bury it and move on.

 

[multiingbe]

How are they retconable, what's the in story explanation? In addition to them the Pokemon that evolve with a certain move are a bit suspect as well.

The one aspect i can think of is that enough time passes between each game's story for previously nonexistent changes and possibilities to then begin to happen.

I started to think about how the movesets for Kanto Pokemon differ in Gold & Silver, and it is three years later; so to some extent it is as though the Pokemon themselves have changed; but then, Pokemon with the original movesets can be gathered by transferring from an earlier time!

 

[SinnohEevee]

@Defiant games can't but keep adding features, so retcons are necessary.

 

[Defiant]

@Defiant games can't but keep adding features, so retcons are necessary.

My point was specifically regarding cross gen evos. GameFreak seem to agree with me hence with the 1 single exception of Sylveon, it's been over 12 years since they added cross Gen evos.

 

[RileyXY1]

I don't think that crossgen evolutions are happening in Gen 8 aside from new Eeveelutions.

 

[RC821]

Crown/Sceptre is dead. Let's just bury it and move on.

You mean kept it in a museum.

 

[Oriden]

My point was specifically regarding cross gen evos. GameFreak seem to agree with me hence with the 1 single exception of Sylveon, it's been over 12 years since they added cross Gen evos.

I think it's more because Mega Evolution technically counted as cross-gen evos and regional variants kind of took up the cross-gen attention in Gen 7. So cross-gen evolutions aren't remotely dead, just shifted in form.

Gen 5 is the only region still to not have any, but it was just doing its own thing trying to act new as heck.

 

[Scruffyjay]

There ages are stated in other media, but never actually in game. Think the Gen 5 cohort were 15 or something, but again not actually mentioned in game.

I thought in sun/moon Hau said "are you 11 too?" but I guess I could be misrembering...

 

[RileyXY1]

I thought in sun/moon Hau said "are you 11 too?" but I guess I could be misrembering...

As someone mentioned earlier, Wicke outright mentions the player's age. She asks the player if they are 11. The player's only possible responses are either "Yes I am" or "How did you know?".

 

[Defiant]

I thought in sun/moon Hau said "are you 11 too?" but I guess I could be misrembering...

Possibly, @Esserise highlighted an example where it says you are "around" 11 too in SM or USUM. But again, "around 11" isn't explicit.

 

[Oriden]

I'm dying now because I was thinking a bit more on the Espeon/Umbreon example and they're also dependent upon the time of day so if we really focus on the canon there- just how earth shattering is it for someone in one-time-of-day Kanto to venture over the border into Johto and look up at the sky? Like "Holyshit, what is going on?! It was light and now it's dark and I don't know what to believe anymore!" XD