But wouldn't sequels take more effort?
A normal Z would take less time and effort than sequels in BW2 style. But sequels would still take a lot less time and effort than 6.5 (an entire Southern Kalos, or Germany, Spain, etc, brand new Pokemon, and brand new Megas).
how do you know? there really is no limits to what a third game has to be. there are general guiding principles, but they can vary in their structure. also it doesn't matter if you 'feel that if they really wanted to do a Z it would've been out last year'; they've taken gaps before. the choice to skip 2015 was probably to have a main series game out in the year of the 20th anniversary.
that's silly. following your thinking, why bother making a remake that isn't as content-stuffed as HGSS after their great success? not to mention BW2 barely sold more than previous third installments: less than 200,000 more copies than Platinum and about 1.5 million over Emerald. neither of that reads as a big success, not least big enough to merit not doing a third game because of how 'well' BW2 did. not to mention BW2 are still just third games anyways, just a slightly different coat of paint.
You can't even compare remakes to third versions. There's a completely different kind of appeal to remakes than there is to third versions.
I would appreciate it if you could link me to a legit source in regards to the game sales.
Oh yes, new plot, new characters, new features, new locations and most importantly, a completely new plot that isn't just a poor rehash of the plot of the original games.
Actually I'm quite curious where you stand in all this Diego? Though I'm still a new around here I've noticed you play devil's advocate alot to the other members theories. Share your own views on how this will all play out and what GF is cooking up.
new characters doesn't disqualify it from being a third version: Juan and Scott were introduced in Emerald as were Charon and Looker in Platinum. new features is also a non-factor: Emerald introduced two trainers being able to spot you at once as well as the Battle Tents and Match Call. new locations? Distortion World, Battle Frontier, Desert Underpass. you're trying to tell me BW2's plot isn't a poor rehash of BW? it's Ghetsis trying to take over the world using a piece of the Original Dragon. it's the same basic gist, but it's really the only part that doesn't fall inline with typical third versions.
it's the same general principle: if a certain model is supposed to be superior (more content-packed/less 'faithful' remakes; more expansive third versions), there is no reason for a company (Game Freak) to return to the 'inferior' model (faithful remakes; less expansive third versions).
for the sources, i used Wikipedia for the numbers. VGChartz has slightly more recent numbers and has BW2 beating Emerald by 1.81m and Platinum by 500k. for as 'big' as they were, they should still sell more.
in order of most to least likely: 'standard' Zygarde-centric Kalos third game*, Gen VII, *endless void*, Gen 6.5 and its permutations, Gen VII with substantial ties to Gen VI a la Gen II.
See now this is good we're having a legitimate conversation about the future of Pokémon. Now what do you think this Z version will do in terms of content? The anime at the moment is all about Zygarde and Ash Greninja with the latter stated to run on energy that's similar to mega evolution so how do you figure these concepts will work in the next games?
i don't really know what it's gonna do for content. third versions don't really have a uniform style of changes from their original pair. given the size of Kalos, i don't really expect it to get more areas. there may be a small (like one or two routes/one or two towns or cities) addition, perhaps even a Nature Preserve-type location, but that'd be about it. and that would be in a sort of best most likely case scenario.
There are a rare few exceptions, like Japanese-only Directs and the odd Australian-exclusive Nintendo Direct (this one, if you guys recall, announced the date of the New Nintendo 3DS for us in the land of oz), and sometimes the content varies by region (which is why it's hosted by someone local when it comes to these regional differences), but in general, I very much agree that a Pokémon game announcement would be broadcast globally.
i like one-off concepts....until it becomes a clutter or slippery slope of twenty same-idea-but-different-name concepts. that being said, i probably would've slowly warmed up to the idea of Greninjash being non-anime exclusive, however it really does just seem like a way to give Ash Mega Evolution/Mega Evolution-level of power without having to actually give it to him (and then need him to have it every other season). i think it's XY105, Alain has a device that shows that Greninjash gives off energy levels equivalent to a Mega Evolution, but (obviously based off of the information from the games thus far) it isn't one. so that, to me, definitely reads very special loop-hole for Ash.You know, even though I am normally opposed to "anime poisoning" in the games, I feel like it would be a little odd to exclude Ash-Greninja but include Zygarde's forms. They're both very distinctive changes, and were treated with about the same level of importance upon announcement. Plus, they were both included in Picross. And, on a personal note, I just think Ash-Greninja is pretty cool looking (despite the fact that I don't watch the anime), and the lore behind the mechanism of its transformation is rather fascincating to me. I quite like having one- or two-off "exceptions" or "variants" to larger concepts, like Primal Reversion is to Mega Evolution.
But, I definitely could see it remaining within the realm of the anime. The most obvious throughline of its asthetic is effectively meaningless in the games.
Agreed.
