Mafia ZD X BMG 2019 Link’s Awakening Hydra Mafia Crossover Game Thread

[thesunspear]

Look, if you want me off your back, then actually engage with the arguments I have presented. Your slot's constant insistence that I have "confirmation bias" doesn't make me civ read you, to say the least

please ignore Moe for the rest of this eternity and you'll want to lynch us less, I promise

I did respond. My read on Chillian was addressed. I admit that it was bad. My read on ZMS was addressed. I admit that it was really bad.
Beyond that, I've explained everything about as well as I think I can.

 

[Greymon]

Sunspear, may I suggest a different angle? Clearly attempting to convince Leetic that you don't look bad isn't going to work. Which I can understand, self-meta and WIFOM wouldn't do much to sway me either. Instead, maybe try convincing them why someone else looks worse?

 

[thesunspear]

Sunspear, may I suggest a different angle? Clearly attempting to convince Leetic that you don't look bad isn't going to work. Which I can understand, self-meta and WIFOM wouldn't do much to sway me either. Instead, maybe try convincing them why someone else looks worse?

I was always going to do this today. I think I agree that I am unlikely to convince them, regardless of all else, and yes
I am going to do a full reads list, which will include where the 3 lynches that I think town needs to make in order to win the game.

For the time being, I can't not respond when I see leetic talking about how they think I'm scum. Its inherent in me.

 

[thesunspear]

Sunspear, may I suggest a different angle? Clearly attempting to convince Leetic that you don't look bad isn't going to work. Which I can understand, self-meta and WIFOM wouldn't do much to sway me either. Instead, maybe try convincing them why someone else looks worse?

I appreciate this post, btw. I should've said that in the above.

 

[dum dum idiots]

I still want to hear more from [...] @dum dum idiots before voting.

hey friend! i've given some thots but if you'd like something specific out of me i'm here

If you think Moe and I don't get the nightkill we want, I think you're just wrong about it.

i laughed really hard at this

the bok's lovechild kill on n1 is unreasonable

i expect dekunut to kill bok's lovechild because of minish. makes sense in hindsight.

Do Zelda Dungeon games typically inform a player if they are roleblocked or not? The one downside of ZMS dying D1 is that we may not have anyone who was roleblocked to be able to confirm if they got notified of being roleblocked

not in my experience. u gotta guess. it's easy to tell if you have an investigation role because you don't get results lmao but otherwise i've never been notified in the past.


regarding sunspear, i'm inclined to give them a chance and lynch them at a later date if necessary.

 

[thesunspear]

Another case study: USM Ubers Mafia. Ultra Necrozma's Uprising (Mafia Chat) - QuickTopic free message board hosting Mafia: - USM Ubers Mafia endgame (Town and Genesect victory)

Now, keep in mind JJJ is a great mafia player, he even made it to finals one year in the championship. Who did he decide to nightkill first? Not an active poster like Sloonei, but Calvin, a very low poster. He didn't want to be caught by a potential Tracker/Watcher, so he went with unpredictable kill options. I see no reason to assume the same couldn't be happening here.

To keep context here, yes JJJ is a great player and he definitely knew what he needed to do to win; however even in the world where he didn't get offed by the 3P the only reason he even HAD an out is because the tracker opened Day 2 by claiming.
Yeah.

 

[thesunspear]

IE not a great case study cause it was a nonsensical game all around

 

[Paul and the band]

IE not a great case study cause it was a nonsensical game all around

Is this game any less so though? I mean just look at the night results

 

[thesunspear]

Is this game any less so though? I mean just look at the night results

you're right that this game is nonsensical
If we were wolves, it would be much less so

Look, I get it
wifom
but sometimes you have to drink the wine

 

[Paul and the band]

When WIFOM is one's best argument for a defense, it is not very convincing

 

[thesunspear]

When WIFOM is one's best argument for a defense, it is not very convincing

you roleblocked our only other argument.

 

[Paul and the band]

you roleblocked our only other argument.

So now you're admitting to being roleblocked?

 

[thesunspear]

So now you're admitting to being roleblocked?

we don't know if we were roleblocked.

 

[Paul and the band]

we don't know if we were roleblocked.

So then what was with that post?

 

[thesunspear]

So then what was with that post?

I was going to make a longer more inspiring post about how you have been playing pretty well this game and you still have room to improve but I decided to save it for postgame and that was the first thing that popped into my head.
we don't know a) if your roleblock even went through on us b) if chillian's vest was still active c) the 3P kill goes through the vest
and there's no way for us to know lol
but if you say you roleblocked us, chances are you roleblocked us. Given the flip, it probably just didn't matter. Bus driver world is kind of compelling because it doesn't rely on weird stuff like scum being inactive or intentionally nokilling.
Look, if I were in your spot I'd be tunneling just as hard. I guess I'm asking you to play better than me.

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also here's the problem right freakin here:

HOW can any of you actually ever interpret this as anything other than a joke? It is so blatantly untrue that I can't imagine reading this and not immediately like... laughing

 

[dum dum idiots]

here's a game theory™, electric killer = maybe lightning rod?????

 

[thesunspear]

here's a game theory™, electric killer = maybe lightning rod?????

nope
I am 90% sure I am right about the effects of their role
and I think you know it makes sense too

 

[dum dum idiots]

nope
I am 90% sure I am right about the effects of their role
and I think you know it makes sense too

i'm saying like, both. lightning rod AND murder beam.

i mean i could be talking out my ass but, electric killer -> send all actions their way + kill, it's in the name, eyes emoji
this is the last post i'll make about it but dammit i want to be right. i thought it was neat umu

@ funnier if this isn't what you made it then this is what you should have made it

 

[thesunspear]

i'm saying like, both. lightning rod AND murder beam.

i mean i could be talking out my ass but, electric killer -> send all actions their way + kill, it's in the name, eyes emoji
this is the last post i'll make about it but dammit i want to be right. i thought it was neat umu

@ funnier if this isn't what you made it then this is what you should have made it

but then we don't have an explanation for S&N dying. They have to be a serial killer with the "THIEF" branding passive that I described earlier

 

[dum dum idiots]

but then we don't have an explanation for S&N dying. They have to be a serial killer with the "THIEF" branding passive that I described earlier

vigilante kill

it's obvious scum wouldn't kill them, and due to flavor the shopkeeper (bok) couldn't have killed them because sharp teeth. someone else had to have done it. and either they held their shot tonight or it was attracted to chillian because lightning rod (or it was one shot & they used it on the miller)

this also depends on how BP vests work, idk if they only block one shot or all shots, or one shot per night. there's also the potential that the death beam trumps everything. but idk if that's as relevant. (i'm also just typing this out bc i'm killing time seeing if i'm allowed to speculate on flavor that isn't mine. i haven't received an answer yet. i'm not posting it just to be safe but i can easily think of a character with sharp teeth and aggressive tendencies that could fit the vigilante role)