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Here's a thought. Do you think maybe Team Rocket would get a starter? Or maybe one of the monkeys?
http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=85209
Judging from these scans for the 20th episode, Ash will obtain a Meguroko and Iris will obtain a Zuruggu in the future. Obviously not in this episode but its at least something to note for now.
Also, this is by no means confirmed 100%. There is still the possibility of it being fake so don't jump the gun yet.
How is it holding on to Satoshi's leg for dear life not a clear indication that it could be his.I think people are jumping the gun a bit with Meguroco.
There's really no clear indication that it will be Ash's.
How is it holding on to Satoshi's leg for dear life not a clear indication that it could be his.
To be honest, it would be great if he did catch more than six Pokémon and switches them consistely. This is something that has never been done (tha only tieme he caught mnore than six was in Kanto with Krabby and Tauros, but both when instantly oaked and not used for years, at least never in the Kanto saga) so it would be interesting to see for a change, although it would be risky for the wwriters to have an intercheangable cast and it might suck if they don't handle it right.
Larvitar was rather clingy to Ash, it was never captured by Ash though. If saw the art work back then like you did for episode 20 then you would assume from the picture that Larvitar is Ash's pokemon which is not the case since he was getting it to it's mother. To those who say it is jumping the gun, seems like any other speculation that goes on here. People want to put two and two together. I personally hope that Meguroco is part of Ash's party at some point in time.How is it holding on to Satoshi's leg for dear life not a clear indication that it could be his.
Sorry for moving the conversation over here, but I'm not sure I wanted to post this in the Tsutarja thread since it barely (if at all) has anything to do with the episode.
I have to agree, I've been thinking about it just recently, and Ash's Pikachu is kind of a limiter on Ash's captures of a new region. Okay normally he does get six "region" Pokemon (except Hoenn, not sure if Aipom really counts) and except Sinnoh (since Buizel was traded to him, but for these purposes let's count it, more than Aipom). If Pikachu wasn't there, Ash might actually be able to catch one more Pokemon than he normally does.
So if Pikachu has to be on Ash's team (which will obviously never change), Ash should catch a few more Pokemon than normal. I'm not sure how they plan on doing that when Araragi only gave Ash 5 Poke balls, and specifically told Shooti that a trainer can only have 6 Pokemon on his team. I'm hoping that wasn't a hint that Ash won't be catching more than normal.
So I'd at least at most like to see Ash with 8-9 Pokemon (the six he undoubtedly will get plus 2-3 reserve type Pokemon). At least then maybe people won't complain as much that Ash has limited his choices by catching all the Starter Pokemon, and those extra Pokemon could help Ash solely take on the Isshu League with just them (assuming some of them are decent).
If the writers, and in turn I have to choose between the two obviously Quality is better. However Quality is not always preferred since people can and will get bored of the same thing over and over, especially an anime series that can easily last 4 years. It is true that maybe watching the episodes in a row will actually be less boring. But since when they air we have to wait a week (and in some cases two weeks) for the next one, that time just adds to itself and things can get too monotonous.I'd rather see the less is more/quality vs. quantity for Ash's captures.
It wouldn't be hard actually to rotate properly.Rotating pokemon would mean Ash would have to rotate only the wildcard slot while the starters, Pikachu, and the bird will stay on the team. If Ash gets 8 Isshu pokemon and Pikachu, that means Ash would have to rotate the wildcard slot 4 times. Personally, I'd rather see better character development and growth for the wildcard rather than getting a lot of them.
I think my hypothetical scenario would be fine.I mean Meguroko already has 2 more evolutions and it seems to have an interesting personality. So assuming Ash has Meguroko, I'd rather see it be developed well.
I don't know I'd feel 8 would be preferable. I mean if and only if the writers decently show Pokemon's screen time would I be okay with just seven. But eight Pokemon sound preferable to me. And nine if they decide to be really good about it.Now, I'd be okay if Ash only gets one other pokemon besides Meguroko, they could easily divide up the screentime into half and half for the BW series.
The only problem the writers would face is if they make it too obvious a Pokemon is in the episode for screen time and just because its going to "evolve" or something is going to happen to it.But any more than that, I feel like the screentime would be limited.
True, but I think I blame the fact the writers refuse give screen time to Pokemon who deserve it (Pikachu is not one of them) and maybe this can be blamed on the budget maybe Pikachu's thunderbolt costs less in animating than Ash sending out Pokabu and having it use "Heat Stamp" but still there is no reason to resort to Pikachu almost every SINGLE EPISODE. Which is why Pikachu annoys the hell out of me sometimes. I'd like it if it was used as Ash's most powerful Pokemon and only used in certain "rare" cases. And if that was the case Pikachu would be pretty fine to me.There's also the fact that there's screentime for Ash's 4 permanent Isshu pokemon. The writers still have issues dividing up the screentime for a full team of 6. It's going to be even harder trying to have good enough screentime for 9 pokemon.
I'd say get a full team of 6 now and develop them any chance they get. By half of BW, Meguroko could be fully evolved and Oak'd and Ash can catch a new wildcard that he could take his time with and develop into another strong pokemon. No more late captures or unevolved wildcards, no more pokemon that would not be seen traveling with Ash, no more lack of development...just a good showcase of a solid 7 pokemon.
Here's my response:Seems a bit long, so I'll add spoiler tags. But this is my response to Ash6K.
AG and DP had Ash battling with 7 pokemon plus reserves. I personally didn't find it boring. And idk, I saw more complaints on pokemon treatment than stagnant teams. And if there were complaints for stagnant teams, evolution seemed to be good enough to change things up for the most part. At least that's how I saw it.If the writers, and in turn I have to choose between the two obviously Quality is better. However Quality is not always preferred since people can and will get bored of the same thing over and over, especially an anime series that can easily last 4 years. It is true that maybe watching the episodes in a row will actually be less boring. But since when they air we have to wait a week (and in some cases two weeks) for the next one, that time just adds to itself and things can get too monotonous.
See, if the writers do this now and pick favorites, it's going to be hard to divide up the screentime fairly. And to be honest, it's not like they're improving with the screentime. In AG, the screentime between Ash's team seemed to be more fair than DP. I mean with people calling Infernape a screentime hog and people complaining about Buizel losing or Torterra losing or Gible not getting enough screentime...I don't think the writers can handle a certain amount of pokemon yet. I mean they haven't found the right balance for 7 pokemon, I think they need to work on that before going ahead.Of course maybe its the writer's fault for not making fun episodes for Pokemon outside of Pikachu and the "walking" Pokemon. I mean seriously as 'interesting' as it was for Pikachu and Piplup to fall in love with each other (and it did "fit" the plot), it was still incredibly boring because Pikachu and Piplup at that time DID NOT need any more screen time. Unlike Ash's other Pokemon (namely Monferno, who one point didn't show up for 10-20 episodes) got screwed over of an appearance. I mean seriously Staraptor was Ash's only other Pokemon that showed up in that episode. Complete waste. And yeah in that case maybe we can blame the writers for making the teams monotonous if they aren't actually going use them properly.
While this scenario seems nice and all, I doubt the writers would find the perfect balance right away for screentime like this if they haven't in the past. And there's so many things that could happen that we can't tell if there's a filler saga this time or not. And I personally like to see old pokemon as well as new pokemon.It wouldn't be hard actually to rotate properly.
So let's assume Ash's 6th slot is Meguroko and his other 3 Pokemon are: Bachuru, Komatana, and Gobitto.
Meguroko- 30 episode from BW020. Shows up at least every other 3 episodes (if not more), and ends with it evolving into Waruvile. Before this though Ash catches Bachuru and it is sent to oak's. So we're at BW050 (at this point).
Bachuru- After Ash's Meguroco evolves and Ash sends it to Oak's for a break. Bachuru is then on Ash's team for 40 episodes, and then evolves. And Ash oaks it and later catches Komatana. We are at BW095 at this moment, and Komatana is on Ash's team for 40 episodes. And it wins at a gym and is then oaked for either Waruvile again. Then for the rest of the possible Isshu Region (assuming there is a filler saga), Ash trains up Waruvile for 10-15 episodes and it evolves after beating one of Shaga's or Iris's Pokemon (hoping for a full battle handicap battle, 3 for Iris and 3 for Shaga), and Waruvial (the evolution of Waruvile) learns Outrage and then manages to knock out either's last Pokemon earning Ash his eighth gym badge (along with most likely Daikenki).
Isshu League (approximately 10 episodes)- Ash uses Pikachu, Kenhorou, Daikenki, Janovy, Chaobuu, Waruvial, Denchura, and Komatana all in the league (maybe Komatana can evolve at this point).
Filler Saga- Ash dumps Daikenki (only because it would be Ash's most developed Pokemon at this point, and I doubt we really need to see all the starters of Isshu in the Filler Saga, assuming there is a FILLER SAGA) and either takes another water Pokemon (possibly for evolution) and takes Gible (so he should have about 5 Pokemon at this point). A few episodes later Ash catches Gobitto, and he has his full team. And for the last 30-50 or so episodes before the hypothetical next generation on the 3DS, Ash's other 2 starters fully evolve (Jalorda and Enbuoh), Ash Gible at least evolves once (or the water Pokemon does), and either Gobitto becomes incredibly powerful and manages to take down a powerful filler saga trainer's Pokemon or evolves and does the same thing (preferably I'd like it if Gobitto/Goruggo managed to be the one to earn Ash his trinket, and keep Pikachu away, but if I can't have that then at least one of the trainer's other Pokemon). Komatana/Kirizikan, Denchura, Waruvile, and Daikenki show up.
The final battle of Best Wishes (with the Isshu Pokemon) should be a triple battle between Ash's three fully evolved starters vs whoever (and three random powerful Isshu Pokemon). As for the hypothetical trainer I don't know, nothing comes to mind. If Shaga is Ash's 8th gym leader badge challenge then maybe Iris but if Ash challenges Iris, I don't know who it should be and Dento would likely be just as redundant.
Oh and feel free to replace any of my Pokemon choices with one of your own, and I suppose if need be take out Komatana, and add more to Meguroko-line, or Bachuru line.
Of course as you can see a problem does come up with my hypothetical hopeful layout. It really doesn't leave much room for Ash's older gen Pokemon to show up, such as those that didn't show up in DP as well as Torterra (for a win) and Infernape. If you feel that Waruvial would have more than enough screen time, maybe they can pull a Glalie as in showing up in the Isshu League but not the filler saga, maybe include Denchura into that (as long as it gets a decent win in the league). Komotana/Kirikizikan (whatever) I feel would need to show up though. And if all else fails, why not a group shot of all of Ash's Oaked Pokemon and mentions to those Ash still would use that aren't currently there.
I think my hypothetical scenario would be fine.
That's what I feel should be focused first. 7 pokemon getting solid screentime. I mean instead of a late capture, have it be early. Instead of a pokemon losing all the time, let them get chances to win. And if Ash gets Daikenki, then I want a lot of focus on Daikenki as well. The character development and the potential to become an awesome water powerhouse should not be passed up.I don't know I'd feel 8 would be preferable. I mean if and only if the writers decently show Pokemon's screen time would I be okay with just seven. But eight Pokemon sound preferable to me. And nine if they decide to be really good about it.
Wanting Ash to get more than a certain number of pokemon only because you favor pokemon isn't really a good reason tbh. Trust me, I wanted Ash to get a Denchura and I think it's possible. But I also know that there's a good chance it won't happen as well. If it doesn't get caught, it doesn't get caught. And is it really that bad if it's caught by Dento or Iris (well I doubt it'd be caught by Iris imo)? We can't judge now how much screentime Dento or Iris will get. Not at this point.I mean because look at all the options Ash has available to him. It would be a disappointment if Ash didn't even get at least one my favorites (Denchura/Gobitto). And as long as no one but Ash gets Denchura, I'd be more than fine if he actually didn't get it. But still, it would be nice if he caught a decent number of Pokemon because Isshu has so many good options (despite what some crazy people may think).
Note how these problems occurred during a saga that people really liked. Would BW be an exception to this? Who knows but if people are already complaining about Mamepato neglect (which they shouldn't now btw)...just saying. The writers may change stuff up in the anime event wise, but how they handle captures and screentime...they've been pretty consistent.True, but I think I blame the fact the writers refuse give screen time to Pokemon who deserve it (Pikachu is not one of them) and maybe this can be blamed on the budget maybe Pikachu's thunderbolt costs less in animating than Ash sending out Pokabu and having it use "Heat Stamp" but still there is no reason to resort to Pikachu almost every SINGLE EPISODE. Which is why Pikachu annoys the hell out of me sometimes. I'd like it if it was used as Ash's most powerful Pokemon and only used in certain "rare" cases. And if that was the case Pikachu would be pretty fine to me.
But not only is it in every episode it has to be used as well in every episode. I mean tell me something. Why did Ash use Pikachu against Narissa (Ditto trainer). What the F#$$$&. I mean honestly Torterra was going to lose to Volkner's Electivire, and Pikachu was going to win (as well as Pikachu winning in the Sinnoh League) why was it necessary to have Pikachu win against a Pikachu Ditto. Absolutely unnecessary. Hell Gible would've been just as equally been better (though Torterra seriously needed a win). But no the writers hate everyone but Pikachu and decided Pikachu needed yet another win.
Or Ash will have better development with his pokemon? One complaint I've heard about Gliscor as a wildcard was that we saw it lost a lot and only saw it won one gym battle before it was put into training. Well...here's the writers' chance to show Meguroko and develop it a lot better before a potential Oaking. And then of course that could leave room for more screentime for a second wildcard instead of having that last minute capture.There is just a few problems though (with just a solid good 7 Pokemon):
1. Meguroco is (likely) actually being caught very early around BW020 (maybe even earlier, maybe before or right after Iris's hypothetical Zuruggu). But most likely it is for some good development. However catching his sixth slot Pokemon this early seems to indicate the writers want Ash to at least catch 2-3 more Pokemon (after it). So at least 8 total Pokemon (including Pikachu).
Ash got 6 DP pokemon and I didn't see complaints about Ash not getting enough DP pokemon. Sure there's more pokemon in BW but hey, maybe they need the screentime. I mean I can name at least 4 pokemon in DP that could've gotten more screentime.2. Pikachu. Ash only getting 7 Pokemon is kind of a joke from the writers in a way that says "There's your 6 Isshu Pokemon without Pikachu, be glad you have that" but no Ash's Rivals more than likely has more than 6 regional Pokemon, and we have Iris and Dento to make up for the extra Pokemon the rivals may have. Meanwhile Ash is limited with just 6 Isshu Pokemon. I feel like Ash should at the very least should get 7 Isshu Pokemon (which if including Pikachu is 8 Pokemon). 8 Isshu Pokemon is ideal, but I'll be fine if it doesn't happen.
Edit: And also did anyone notice how boring Meguroco's moveset is? Well okay checking again, Stone Edge and the likes are okay (and it learns Outrage when it's fully evolved) but geez for decent ground and dark type moves, it sucks. I really hope Torterra comes back and has learned Earth Power. Or if they are brave enough have Meguroko and it's possible evolutions use Earthquake.
I hate when the writers give a Pokemon to that doesn't decently show off their typing. And Meguroco is the bottom of the barrel in terms of ground and dark. There is some nice ground and dark type moves I agree. But since it will likely only have Bite or Crunch (which seem so boring, like dig is for ground) or maybe even Trickery (would actually be nice assuming Meguroco and it's evolution pull it off in a cool manner that's not white glowy something), it seems disappointing it doesn't have a decent special dark type move.
However for the final evolution Waruvial, I am looking forward to Outrage (and I hope they don't disappoint).